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Subject: What's the latest dongle policy?
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:15:09 GMT
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I have LW 4.0. I want to upgrade to LW 5.0.
I havent used LW in a while and I think my dongle
does not work. So what is the latest dongle policy.

Thanks
Alan


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From: David Lo <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: SGI or NT
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:26:32 -0800
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Jim Lacy wrote:

> If you had your druthers, would you rather have LW on an SGI (high
> impact, 250mhz, 196 MB Ram, 12gig disk) vs. an NT Machine (P.Pro 200,
> 128 MB Ram, 4 gig disk)   My main reasons for asking are:
>
> 1.  My SGI, in the broadest sense, is faster than my PC. BUT we have
> multiple PC's ,i.e, we could spread the rendering load across many
> machines (at least that's what I'm told.) I've also been told you can't
> spread the rendering load cross platform (is this true?)
> 2. It seems like many of the LW plugins are for the pc platform only
> (??)
> 3. In general, I haven't seen much discussion of folks using the SGI
> version, is this mainly because of cost?
>
> Opinions?
>
> Jim
> [e-mail]

I would choose PC.  Version 5 on SGI is not even out yet, and suppose it
comes out today you're looking at six month lag for SGI version.  You're
right about the plug-in situation, those developer would have to get an
SGI just to port their plug-in over, things might get better w/O2,
though.  But from what I've heard not too many copies were sold on SGI
and Newtek is taking back the distribution.  On the plus side, you
wouldn't have to spend another $2,000 for an OpenGL card (unless you
already have one) for PC if you go w/LW SGI.

With plug-in like Gizmo and PuppetMaster coming out, I'd go w/PC.  Save
your SGI for Alias or Houdini.

The LW files are compatible across all platforms, so you should be able
to render across platform (w/different version of ScremerNet, probably
running separately).

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From: david goerndt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: !!!!!! Power Texture Plugin<- NEVER WORKED!! USELESS!@   NEVER WORKED!!!
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:49:44 -0500
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BobaFett wrote:
>
> Yours works fine??? Can you map a face onto a head??? Everytime I try,
> when reloaded as a Custom UV map, all the resizing & positioning that
> was done in PwrTextr is gone!! The eyes end up on the scalp, etc?!?!!
>
> NOBODY!! NOBODY!!! NOBODY in this whole Newsgroup or from Newtek has
> helped me..
>
> HAS ANYONE GOT THIS DAM PLUGIN TO WORK PROPERLY!?!?!
>

I've tried the same thing you tried, with no success. My conclusion was
that this plugin is a toy and not useful for accurate positioning of
textures. There isn't even a proper way to scale a texture, so I don't
use it(except to play with).




--
"Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy, until you can find a rock"
                                                   Joe Bob Briggs

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From: "Dean A. Scott" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Second post... SurfFuzzShader
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[e-mail] wrote:

> I tried creating a volumetric cloud using particles and the
> surffuzzshader plugin.  At times I had good results,

I tried  using SrfFuzz and all it did was BLUR the ENTIRE
frame like a triple strength Soft Filter.  The manuals are basically
void of any usage of this plugin.  How's it work?  I read enough
to know that you select the plugin for the desired surface, then
select the similarly named plugin in the image processing panel
to activate it.  Done that.  Does the same for Srf Blur, too.

Help!  How do you set up the options?  I left them as default and
varied the numbers slightly... no fix... the whole frame was
blurred... not the just the surface it was applied to.



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From: [e-mail] (BobaFett)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Re:!!!!!! Power Texture Plugin<- NEVER WORKED!! USELESS!@   NEVER WORKED!!!
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I wonder if Newtek actually blew money on this plugin!? They
probably paid someone for it & it doesn't even work!>!!

Notice how they aren't responding to my inquiries~

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>I don't think it is designed to work just look like a good idea, I use NT
>and it does the same thing. Wonder  why they include it with the plugins.
>


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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson)
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Subject: Re: HELP
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>In article <01bbd77c$eea61940$74f2f4cd@beau>, "Big Daddy" <[e-mail]>
>writes:
>
>>I have LightWave 3D 5.0 for Windows, and I have just recently moved from
>>California to Florida.  My dongle is missing.  I can't buy another one
>>anywhere...any ideas?!!
>
>Sorry Big Daddy, the whole idea of dongles is that you can't buy one just
>anywhere... It has to come from NewTek.
>Call NewTek, get the bat news, look some more, etc. Repeat as required.
>
>Assuming you have insurance, the policy might cover lost software. Losing
>the dongle pretty much means you've lost the software. Worth a  try.
>You might be tempted to check into one of the "Dongle Removing Programs",
>just don't EVER admit it to anyone.
>
>Good Luck
>
>Gary Grossoehme

If he is a registered user with Newtek, wuoldn't there would be some way of
replacing it. A signed statutory delaration that the dongle was in fact lost
must cut some creedence, surely?

Cheers


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Imagine It
3D animation and graphics
Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

http://www.tasmall.com.au/imagine_it/

The Librarian Rules! - OOOK!
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troberts wrote:
>
>         Hello all you graphics users. I would like to get in touch with users
> in the Melbourne, Florida area to share some art,meet some people interested in
> computer graphics, or just talk about problems,preferences and solutions
> concerning all the different hardware & software.
>
>         I am fairly new to computer animation, and find it very interesting. I
> am currently using Impulse's Imagine and Hash 3d Animation.
>
>         Anyone interested in discussing computer graphics feel free to send me
> some E-mail at [e-mail].


I'm not in Melbourne, but Orlando, which isn't too far away. I'm the Art
Director a Stage 22 Imaging. We have the largest concentration of LW
users in Orlando in one building.
Check our Web site for images and info. http://www.stage22.com

--
"Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy, until you can find a rock"
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I would certainly like to see more on puppetmaster but no one has said
where the web page is located I ran a search for digital domain and
flatearth but came up with nothing, where the heck is it?



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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: !!!!!! Power Texture Plugin<- NEVER WORKED!! USELESS!@   NEVER WORKED!!!
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BobaFett wrote:
> >Looks like it. Mine works fine with NT and crashes as described under
> >95.
> >
> >
Come on Newtek. Your demo at Digital Media World in London was average
next to Max and Alias. And now you ship software that is full of bugs
with a out of date FTP site.

How do we know which file is the latest?????

What a bad service for 995 pounds!!!!

Repair the power texture under 95 and give us LW 5.2 free!!!!! (With
texture support in open GL like Max!!!!)

I am a Lightwave die hard but you don't make it easy!!!!!

Adamski

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From: "Eolo Perfido (NecroN)" <[e-mail]>
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How can i install power texture in Win95 ???

Thanks



NecroN




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From: [e-mail] (Moshe Zafrany - TNG)
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Subject: Re: 5.0 experimental features?
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On Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:00:19 GMT, [e-mail] (Wilson Orley)
wrote:
>
>   With 4.0 you could type ctl+shift+f12
>and access the experimental cel shader
>
>now with 5.0 I type in the same I get a panel that says
>
>Warning
>experimental features enabled.
>
>but for the life of me I dont know what they are
>nor can I find em.
>
>any clues anyone
>
The one I know of is:

After the experimental features is on, turn the cell look function
edges for an object. Then select line size. A new type "Mediom Small"
is availble.

-- Moshe Zafrany
TNG Israel


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From: Jeff Scheetz <[e-mail]>
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If the surfaces are double sided you can turn the object inside out.  In
lightwave under the strech command enter -1 for the Z.  This can cause problems
with stenciled decals that will now be reversed, and may also screw up certain
heiarchies.  If it were me, I would still rotate them in modeler and resave
them. I have yet to use a model (besides Voyager) from anywhere including
viewpoint that did not require at least one visit to modeler.

You can also parent the objects to a null and rotate them 180 degrees on frame
0.  Then do all your other motions (and parenting) to the null.

Jeff Scheetz
Foundation Imaging


Patrick Bradley wrote:
>
> Is there an easy way to change the direction an object is facing?  What I
> mean is the direction the triangle on the bounding box preview.  This
> direction is what Lightwave uses for "look ahead" in the motion graph
> panel.  Some of the models I got off the web have the triangle pointing
> backwards or at right angles to the the way they should be and have a
> large heirarchy of objects (some displaced and rotated)  I would like to
> avoid loading/rotating/saving in modeler to fix it.
>
> "Save Transformed" does not work when objects in the hierarchy are
> duplicated in the scene and then translated/rotated.  These
> translations/rotations are different for each instance of the object, and
> doing "Save Transformed" on one screws up the placement of all of the
> other objects.  I do _not_ want to make multiple copies objects.
>
> Thanks.
>
> .__     ,        .   .__         ..       Patrick Bradley    ([e-mail])
> [__) _.-+-._.* _.;_/ [__)._. _. _|| _   . System Administrator
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Subject: I know it's too earlier but...
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Here are some ideas I'd like to see in the next version.....


The ability to name groups of faces and points. This would be
incredibly useful for complex Metanurb ojects. You could name groups
of points for control points on the corners of the mouth or eyes and
use a selection option to make just those points moveable (I am
certain there is a better way to word that!).

And one other idea I am sure has been repeated MANY times:
Interactive, VISUAL, texture placement!!!!!

The ability to refine the metanurb objects buy automatically creating
additional cross sections.

Thats about all I can think of right now, I am sure there are more.

just my 2 cents.

[e-mail]





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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:50:31 -0800
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I heard new ones were coming out for cheap ($200ish). Anyone know?
gratze!!
--
mailto:[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Mike Schnabel)
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>Lightwave 4.0 for sale.  New in box.  $350.00 obo.

>tom cole
>913 843 5413

Is that Amiga or PC version? Or SGI I guess for that matter.


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Forget this post:  BETA 2.A is now out!  Support for 8->32 bit colors!
Same Place, Diff. version..


bforce wrote:
>
> .AVI sequence loader (AVILOAD) is now available.
>
> This is a Windows'95/NT ONLY Version that supports long filenames.
>
> For the plugin, or more information on how to use .AVI's as images in
> Lightwave...
>
> www.en.com/users/bforce
>
> D. Flahaut
> BurntPixels

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From: [e-mail] (Arnie Boedecker)
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Subject says it all.  We need a plugin that will allow Lightwave to
import a 3DSMax object, or will allow 3dsMax to export a LW object.

We need the object to retain the quad-polygon info, and not turn
everything into triangles, that is why we can't use the old 3DS
file converter.

Anything available like this?  Thanks.


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I built a room and used a couple of attached polygons in
areas where low detail was required.

However once I switched to raytracing the attached polygons
do not appear in reflections ?

Am I going crazy ?
Any hints ?
[ I ended up slicing the attachments into the surfaces
  and that works. ]

Robin Luiten


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d video game development
Date: 21 Nov 1996 22:55:02 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chuck Baker) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
>Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d video game development
>Date: 19 Nov 96 19:04:40 +0500


>On 17-Nov-96 13:57:47, Michael Sherrill ([e-mail]) in
>comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, re: <Lightwave & 3d video game development>
>said:
>>I've been trying to get an idea of which 3d packages game developers are
>>using for playstation, sega, etc.

>>I'd appreciate any info anyone can provide on major game developers using
>>lightwave, and also any drawbacks to using 3ds max for the same (besides
>>the obvious!)

>>Mike Sherrill
>>Pixelmedia Group
>>[e-mail]
>>http://members.tripod.com/~Pixel

>Sony now has a developer package based around Lightwave.  They are
>currently offering these in Japan, but will be offering them world-wide
>within a few months.

>======================================================================
>Chuck Baker -- NewTek, Inc., Technical Support Services
>======================================================================
>Tech Support Email: [e-mail]      //  Tech BBS 913-271-9299


I saw this announcement.  A producer we know sent it to us.  What was odd was
that LW 4.0 was specified.  Not LW 5.0.


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: amiga vs. ppro200
Date: 21 Nov 1996 22:53:03 -0700
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>> Ofcourse... A PC is faster, and an Amiga better... But is it worth the
>hassle??
>> I've had an Amiga for 8 years and its multi-tasking system is still unbeaten,
>> yes.. But speed is critical for me. I wasn't about to fork out lots of cash to
>> get a 060.. Instead I bought a PC and have never looked back....
>>
>> Just my opinion.
>> _____o________o___________________________________________
>> \\/\/|eBo de W|t! e-mail: [e-mail]
>>                 homepage: http://www.cybercomm.nl/~wdwbest

>Well, I haven't had an Amiga quite that long, but in the 5 years I've
>owned one, I'm still trying to figure out what makes the multi-tasking
>so great. You crash one program and the whole thing goes. How great is
>that?

>--
>Elliot Bain
>Laurell Creative Services
>614.459.4404

Well, I think the Amiga had a pretty smoot implementation of multitasking.  It
really did do a much better job than Win 3.1.  Win 95 bridges the gap a bit
though.  I agree, however, that our Amiga at least was no exactly the most
stable machine in the world.  It is the only computer that I have ever had
that had a chip work its way out of a socket.  Very odd.  All in all a fine
machine that was ahead of its time and then failed to keep up.


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Phase5 is ment to show a prototype of the A/Box at the local
ComputerFest here in Toronto at the end of the month.  Maybe old Boba
should drop by.. if he's not licking the Lord Gates' boots that day. :)

Zoltan






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Zoltan Hunt wrote:
>
> Phase5 is ment to show a prototype of the A/Box at the local
> ComputerFest here in Toronto at the end of the month.  Maybe old Boba
> should drop by.. if he's not licking the Lord Gates' boots that day. :)
>
> Zoltan
>
>

:) he he!


Anyone who goes and see's this 8th wonder please report!

Geoff Suttor
Animator.
Digital Video Productions Australia.
WK: mailto:[e-mail]
HM: mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.powerup.com.au/~gefbec

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>
> Is there a more detailed description of Puppetmaster than what's on
> the web page currently?
>
> Here are some yes/no type of questions:
> ----------------------------------------
>
> Are there more IK functions?

As a plug-in, Puppet Master uses current features available in LightWave.
Hence, It uses LW's IK just as it uses LW hierarchical linking and HPB
rotation.

Note: Fori demonstrated a new method of IK during the VTexpo.  Advantages
over LW's current approach is that it's fast, damn fast, totally F'n
fast, and there is no jitter. It is not known when it will be
incorporated into LW.

> Is it a separate product from Gimzo?

Yes
>
> If so, is it compatible with Gimzo?
> I don't know, haven't tried it yet.

> Is Puppetmaster available from retail/mail order?

It is available direct from Fori.  e-mail him at:
    [e-mail]
>
> Does its control over point groups mean better control over texture
> map placement?

No.  Puppet Master is for animation.  Better texture control (U,V) will
be part of LW 6.0.
>
> Can Puppetmaster be used to create clothes on characters?

Puppet Master can animate the clothing after you make them.
>
> Can you create clothing via the sock function?

The sock feature keeps smooth seams between sections.
>
> When controlling groups of points, can points be shared by other
> groups of points?

I highly doubt it.

--

We've been playing with it at Flat Earth.  Believe me, it is a radical
improvement for animation.  Say goodbye to bones (rejoice!)

--
Bryan J. Blevins                               Blevins Enterprises, Inc.
                   [e-mail]

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In the latest Newsweek magazine there is an article on the Titanic
mini-series -an article which I haven't had time to read yet- featuring
a big picture of the Titanic.  Was this photo done in lightwave?

Matt Merkovich

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Where can I find Painterly Effects?

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> Jim Lacy <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Jim Lacy <[e-mail]>
>Subject: SGI or NT
>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:41:17 -0600

>Hi All-

>I'm thinking about buying Lightwave, either for an SGI or PC (NT).  I'm
>pretty new to 3d modelling, so have patience with me... :)

>If you had your druthers, would you rather have LW on an SGI (high
>impact, 250mhz, 196 MB Ram, 12gig disk) vs. an NT Machine (P.Pro 200,
>128 MB Ram, 4 gig disk)   My main reasons for asking are:

>1.  My SGI, in the broadest sense, is faster than my PC. BUT we have
>multiple PC's ,i.e, we could spread the rendering load across many
>machines (at least that's what I'm told.) I've also been told you can't
>spread the rendering load cross platform (is this true?)
>2. It seems like many of the LW plugins are for the pc platform only
>(??)
>3. In general, I haven't seen much discussion of folks using the SGI
>version, is this mainly because of cost?

>Opinions?

>Jim
>[e-mail]

It is mainly because the SGI version is still on version 4.0.  4.0 doesn't
have OpenGL which would be a good reason to run it on the SGI.  The other
negative on the SGI is that there aren't as many plugins available for it.

OTOH - 5.0 may be out soon and perhaps you want to use LW with the other apps
you have on the SGI.

Intel and DEC are the two most popular platforms right now and the best
support is there. Actually Amiga support is pretty strong but the rendering
power isn't realy there. But that's another story.




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>The LW files are compatible across all platforms, so you should be able
>to render across platform (w/different version of ScremerNet, probably
>running separately).

>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>David Lo                            | Silicon Action Imaging
>Alias PowerAnimator, Lightwave,     | http://www.cris.com/~davidlo
>SoftImage, Premiere, After Effects  | mailto:[e-mail]
>-------------------------------------------------------------------

Each version of LW only comes with the Screamernet software for that platform.
 So you would have to get an SGI license to get the Screamernet for SGI.


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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I would certainly like to see more on puppetmaster but no one has said
> where the web page is located I ran a search for digital domain and
> flatearth but came up with nothing, where the heck is it?
try:
www.mindspring.com/~surferjoe
the waitress will direct you to the menu
head for the lightwave lab...bottom of the page

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From: [e-mail] (Hakki Alacakaptan)
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Defectors from 3DStudio like myself might have noticed, alongside a
huge sense of relief, that there's no "exclude" button on the lights
panel - i.e. no easy way to get a light to hit only non-excluded
objects. Has anyone thought of creating a plugin to fill this void, or
is this just not an option for a raytracer?

Hakki Alacakaptan




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you tell him jeff!! it's a great modelling tools...i do all my character
work with it,if lightwave patches were like hash's maybe i would use
my lightwave more,since gone to max, maybe the new version will
woe me back???

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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I cannot get this plugin to work.  When I try to load a bitmap image(any
> kind: iff;tiff;bmp, etc.) I get a dialog that says, "Could not load
> bitmap image," when I hit 'OK' it closes Modeler.  I heard a rumor that
> this plugin doesn't work under Windows 95, is this true?
>
> PaulHi,
    Yes you are correct. It does not work under Win95 as there is a
conflict or problem with the Open-GL support in Win95. Works fine under
Win-NT. I have the same problem. It's worth, I think moving to NT. I
probably will in the near future when NT 4.0 is as stable as 3.51.
Hope this answers your question.

        Bye,
            Stefan v Cavallar

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Greg L. Kimnach ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <5685bc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chris Golchert) writes:
: >From: [e-mail] (Chris Golchert)
: >Subject: Re: Bill Gates copied Apple's OS!!! HA!!!!
: >Date: 11 Nov 1996 21:20:44 GMT


: >I'm not a computer history major, but..what was BG/MS's last original
: >idea?
Computer history must be a one week course. BTW I think BG's last original idea was to
license DOS to IBM instead of selling it.

: what, now universities are offering "computer history" as a major?:-)
: ----------------------------------------------
: Greg L. Kimnach     NASA Lewis Research Center
: 216-433-6251        21000 Brookpark RD.  MS 301-5
:                     Cleveland, OH  44135
: "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler"
:          --Albert Einstein
: "Do or do not.  There is no try."--Yoda
: ----------------------------------------------

Elroy Coltof

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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] writes:

>You might be tempted to check into one of the "Dongle Removing Programs",
>just don't EVER admit it to anyone.

You might be tempted, but then, your conscience would get the better of
you and you'd buy the software from a reputable dealer.

-M.

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Joe Clasen <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>Michael C. Ling wrote:
>> I get the impression from the www page that it's available now, but I
>> have NOT seen anyone online who's seen it first hand.
>>
>It is available now and places like Digital Domain, Flat Earth and lil
>ol' us are putting it through its paces right now. It redefines the way
>you animate...it makes metanurbs and metamation a true animation system
>by allowing you to animate in Lightwave Layout by MOVING SPECIFIED POINT
>GROUPS. For example, it takes 11 bones to move an eyebrow in an M&M
>character. In Puppet Master, it takes one group of points that you can
>visually see while metamation is updating the screen. The botom line:
>you get to animate and see what your doing in layout. All the regular
>tools, like morph targets, IK and bones, are avaiable, too. It is the
>answer to doing character animation and many other types of animation in
>Lightwave. It is a little tricky to set up, and like metamation, there
>are a few rules such as what gets loaded first, but once it is set up,
>it is truly awesome.

Is there a more detailed description of Puppetmaster than what's on
the web page currently?


Here are some yes/no type of questions:
----------------------------------------

Are there more IK functions?

Is it a separate product from Gimzo?

If so, is it compatible with Gimzo?

Is Puppetmaster available from retail/mail order?

Does its control over point groups mean better control over texture
map placement?

Can Puppetmaster be used to create clothes on characters?

Can you create clothing via the sock function?

When controlling groups of points, can points be shared by other
groups of points?


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Why do I keep getting the message "can=B4t open surface file" every fuzzing
time I render a example in the texture(surface) selection menu??
(Please help or I will get drastic and maybe break a floppy!)



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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Difference btwn Movie quality and Broadcast Quality
Date: 19 Nov 1996 23:00:00 GMT
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I just can't figure it out!

If you watch a movie on TV or at a theater,  and later watch the TV news
for example, there really is a major difference in btwn them.

Can anyone educate me over here?

(The difference I can think of is as follows:
movies - 24fps, scens captured on film.
Broadcast - 30 fps, contains 60 fields, scenes captured on video camera.)


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From: [e-mail] (Hakki Alacakaptan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Spline / rail extrude to motion?
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I'm trying to make a vehicle travel on a turnpike. I copied a set of
points from the turnpike object and turned them into a spline curve.
This had to be done in small segments, later merging them into one
large segment because attempting to make a curve from the points in
one go would create a cat's cradle insead of a spline. The order in
which the curve segments were created later appeared to affect the
rail extrude process. Visually identical splines would create wildly
divergent extrudes, all of them inaccurate and with severe kinking.
Needless to say, the extrude to motion plugin produced a rollercoaster
nide instead of a leisurely cruise over the turnpike.

Where did I go wrong?



Hakki Alacakaptan

Nucleus Digital
Istanbul, Turkey


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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey L. Fitzgerald)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Brodcast quality? Betacam SP or S-VHS
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

> So, if you were to master an animation to S-VHS and ship to the TV
> station for insertion, there's not really a problem. Only real snobby
> die-hard engineers will give you the nose-up at S-VHS.

You gotta be kidding... The Broadcast industry has never included SVHS as
a comparable medium to Beta-Cam. There is more to the difference than
resolution. Are you telling me you see the same picture quality when you
watch beta-cam and SVHS side by side? No way...

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I'll try again.

  I tried creating a volumetric cloud using particles and the
surffuzzshader plugin.  At times I had good results, but other times, the
fuzz would darken or fade... on the SAME FRAME!!  What's going on here?  I
didn't have shadow mapping either... there wasn't any shadows playing with
it.
  When I animated this, the fuzz cloud would sometimes blink lighter
darker.  Very strange and unacceptable.  Anyone have a clue?  Stuart?
Allen?
  Thanks

David Carlson
CONTINUUM
3D graphics and animation



David Carlson
CONTINUUM
3D graphics and animation

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From: [e-mail] (Joe Tracy)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: The Scoop on LWPRO
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:35:16 GMT
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[e-mail] ("Phil South") wrote:


>> >The rumors you have heard about LWPRO and VTU are true. Miller
>> Freeman, >the new owners of the Avid publications have decided (for
>> reasons beyond >my control and/or understanding) to terminate both
>> LWPRO and VTU. A press >release will be posted (if it hasn't already).
>> >
>> >I'd like to thank all of you who have stuck with LWPRO over the
>> years....
>> >
>> >John Gross
>> >editor (former), LWPRO

>What I don't get is why both LWPro and VTU have subscription forms in
>them, even the issue which arrived yesterday. I suppose that they will
>coerce you into taking out a sub to 3D Artist instead?

Most of the remaining issues of LWPro and VTU were being published
before the annoucement was made.  Now mail is another story... just
two weeks ago I received a VTU renewal notice.  Sometimes memos and
announcements take awhile to get to all the departments.

In regards to subscriptions, you will be sent a letter by Miller
Freeman asking you if you want your subscription to carry over to 3D
DESIGN or if you want  a refund.  VTU subscribers will be given the
option of carrying their subscription over to Digital Video magazine
or getting a refund.

In related news, Advanstar announced at the VTU Expo that they'll be
starting a new magazine called NewTekniques that will pick up where
VTU and LWPro left off, plus apparently take readers "to the next
level".  The magazine will start as a quarterly publication in March
of 1997 with the possibility of increasing in quantity with the
support of readers and advertisers.  NewTekniques has the full support
of NewTek.

Miller Freeman has stated that they will be printing bi-annual reports
on the Video Toaster, Video Toaster Flyer, and LightWave 3D that will
accompany 3D Design and Digital Video magazines.  The first of these
reports will apparently occur in Spring of 1997.

If any new information arises, I'll pass it along.  Continued success
to everyone!

Sincerely,


Joe Tracy, Editor in Chief
Video Toaster User


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Fredrick Etter)
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Subject: Break! and Explosion macro problems
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I am using Lightwave 3.5 on a Toaster system and can't get the Break! and
Explosion macros to work. Whenever I use the Break! macro it always fails
and says boolean error. I have loaded different objects; one sided polys;
two sided polys. Whatever, it always gives me an error.
So I cut up my objects by hand and ran it through the Explosion macro.
Nothing. After giving it path specifications and setting all the settings
and clicking ok, it just drops back to modeler. No scene file created, no
action of any sort detectable, no error messages.

Do these things actually work?

Dan


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From: [e-mail] (David Evenson)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: .dxf export from Lightwave Modeler?
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I need to export .dxf files from Modeler 5.0. Is this possible? Forgive me
if this is a stupid newbie question.

Thanks in advance

- Dave

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From: "Wayne S. Williams" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Polygons disappearing
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:10:13 +0000
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To: Keith Frank <[e-mail]>

Hi Keith,

Keith Frank wrote:
>
> Can anyone help.  I've been modeling a character that I'm going to
> animate.  In modeler all of my polygons are facing the right direction
> and when my open gl preview is on everything looks fine.  When I bring
> the object into layout, certain polygons disappear.  The problem doesn't
> correct itself when I try to turn on the doublesided feature in the
> surfaces panel.  I'm at a loss for what to do.  Every other time
> something like this has happened it has turned out to be a polygon
> facing the wrong direction.  This does not appear to be the case this
> time.  Am I overlooking something?  Thanks in advance.

   It sounds to me like you have some illegal polygons.  These are polys
that have 4 or more vertices, some of which are not in the same plane;
or the poly has a concave edge somewhere.  It's pretty easy to fix, just
triple the object, or find the offending polygons and triple them only.

This should help, good luck!

   3D Wayne / CyLum 3D Imaging
_____________________________________________________
   http://www.gate.net/~dddwayne

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From: Joe Clasen <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Animating Metanurbs
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:06:53 -0800
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Michael C. Ling wrote:

>
> I get the impression from the www page that it's available now, but I
> have NOT seen anyone online who's seen it first hand.
>
> M C L -
It is available now and places like Digital Domain, Flat Earth and lil
ol' us are putting it through its paces right now. It redefines the way
you animate...it makes metanurbs and metamation a true animation system
by allowing you to animate in Lightwave Layout by MOVING SPECIFIED POINT
GROUPS. For example, it takes 11 bones to move an eyebrow in an M&M
character. In Puppet Master, it takes one group of points that you can
visually see while metamation is updating the screen. The botom line:
you get to animate and see what your doing in layout. All the regular
tools, like morph targets, IK and bones, are avaiable, too. It is the
answer to doing character animation and many other types of animation in
Lightwave. It is a little tricky to set up, and like metamation, there
are a few rules such as what gets loaded first, but once it is set up,
it is truly awesome.

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From: "Simo salonen" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Procedural textures plugins?
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  Hello lightwavers..

   My manual tells me that lw has 10 procedural textures and that there is
more available as plugins.
 Anyone know something about these textureplugins? ie. where to find etc..


--
Simo Salonen      [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave 5 upgrade
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On 17-Nov-96 00:07:54, Matthew Taylor ([e-mail]) in
comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, re: <Lightwave 5 upgrade> said:
>I have recently aquired the lightwave 5 upgrade.
>My problem is that I get a startup failure message after replacing
>modeler4 with modeler5.
>Someone help me!!!!!!!

The workaround is to set your regional settings to US English, the fix is
to go to the NewTek ftp site, in the path
pub/newtek/upgrades/lightwaveintel, and get the file pc50b2c.zip, whicxh
is a patch, and apply it.  Be sure to read the .doc file, follow the
instructions -- there is a zip file of plugins contained within the patch
zip, so you have to unzip twice.  Sounds a little risque, I know, but
you'll be glad you did.  ;)


======================================================================
Chuck Baker -- NewTek, Inc., Technical Support Services
======================================================================
Tech Support Email: [e-mail]      //  Tech BBS 913-271-9299
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From: Joseph Maas <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Brodcast quality? Betacam SP or S-VHS
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:38:35 -0800
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TL Westgate wrote:
>
> Joseph Maas wrote:
> >
> > They say that you can do brodcast quality renderings with LW, however,
> > in the Video Toster User mag all you see is S-VHS type hardware for sale
> > to record LW animations. Is'nt S-VHS for "Bronco Bob's Used Cars" local
> > TV spot, and Betacam SP for the true brodcast quality used for all of
> > the network stuff,,,, or am I missing something here?
>
> You are missing something here, but it is very slight. True, Betacam SP
> is considered to be the best analog tape you can use, but S-VHS has the
> same horizontal resolution (400 lines) at Beta SP, so the quality
> difference is on the same level, but S-VHS suffers more loss after
> multiple generations.
>
> So, if you were to master an animation to S-VHS and ship to the TV
> station for insertion, there's not really a problem. Only real snobby
> die-hard engineers will give you the nose-up at S-VHS.
>
> TL

Yeah hooo!!!!!! Broco Bob sayz thanks!!!!

Actually, you have confirmed my suspitions here. What about frame by
frame recording vs. realtime?

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From: Alex Lugones <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Titanic (mini series) LW
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:15:52 -0400
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John Gross wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Just wanted to let you know that the Titanic mini series on CBS (first
> half on Sunday nite, 2nd half on Tuesday the 19th) uses LW generated
> effects for all of its effects.
>
> The Titanic, water, smoke, wakes and people on board in all of the moving
> and sinking shots are all generated in LightWave.

Thanks for reminding me about watching it. I missed Sunday night's first
half. Too bad. I've got make a living using Lightwave too. Otherwise, I
just saw the second half and thought the guys at Digital Muse did an
exceptional job. It was thoroughly convincing. After a while, you wonder
if Lightwave is capable of  integrating seemlessly with real life
situations without the use of atomic subs, spaceships or mythical
creatures. I would be real interested in knowing briefly what you did to
get the convincing smoke and splashing water as the ship sunk. I have my
own ideas. I am wondering if I'm thinking along the same lines.

BTW, unfortunately many of the Lightwave shots were obscured by a mega
dissolve montage sequence as the ship was sinking. These crazy TV
Directors get carried away sometimes with their need to show a creative
side. If that's what you want to call it.

--
Alex Lugones

Wildseed 3D/Interactive
http://shell.idt.net/~wildseed

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From: UserName <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: !!!!!! Power Texture Plugin<- NEVER WORKED!! USELESS!@   NEVER WORKED!!!
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i have tried Power Texture,
it is ok if you use a bmp under NT.
I tried the winnt256.bmp that come this NT in the windows directory and
it run, also the other desktop's bmp are good for power texture.
So, i tried to use a bmp of my face, nothing, modeler crash!!!!
So , try to examine the bmp format of images that come with NT and
convert your image in that format.
When you place the image and save sometime and error occured.
If the .SRF in your HD you have to read it with notepad or edit or
something like it because in layout it don't read it.
So you have to read data and write it manually in layout.
I hope this can help you.
Sorry for my english.......

If someone understand the BMP format required then please email to me
at [e-mail], i can read news frequently.

Bye

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From: Wil Mobberley <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: amiga vs. ppro200
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In article <[e-mail]>, Elliot Bain
<[e-mail]> writes
>Well, I haven't had an Amiga quite that long, but in the 5 years I've
>owned one, I'm still trying to figure out what makes the multi-tasking
>so great. You crash one program and the whole thing goes. How great is
>that?
>
That's a valid point and this shortcoming has annoyed me on occasions of
course but it wst about the only thing I could really criticise. To put
in a non-technical way when I used my Amiga I felt far more
manoeuvreable and in control.

When I installed a programme it didn't put files all over the hard
drive. Most times it built a directory and added a line to the startup
sequence. Deleting it was simple. I could do in 10MB ram on the Amiga
what the PC only just manages with 32MB (Talking Lightwave here) so
something is clearly wrong.

Some of my frustration with the PC is due to moving to an unfamiliar
platform, sure, but in recognising that the Amiga for me has to be a
thing of the past, my regret is never became what it should have been.

The Amiga as it stands now is no longer superior to a PC (Pentium)
because of speed and industry standard considerations. However, anyone
who doesn't know that it did have the makings of a vastly superior
machine... Aw, what the hell, they're not missing anything now. It's all
academic and that's that. Amyone want to fill a newsgroup with pointless
speculation about how sad it is that Betamax did't win over VHS?
--
Wil Mobberley  - 3D graphic artist
Web site: http://www.mobydick.demon.co.uk
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perhaps you could render the foreground and background seperately and
composite them in photoshop

Miguel Marn <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> How can I use antialiasing everywhere, but on the edges
> between foreground objects and the background? I would need
> it for rendered game-objects, and I don't want to work on
> the edges manually. Thanx. Mig 23.
>

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Can anyone tell me why the new update for LW isen't working for me,
downloaded the proper file, unzipped using all instructions, including
updating with bat file.All I get is Dos error 11 and nothing works. I am
using windows NT 3.51 and any suggestions

Snoopy37

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From: [e-mail] (John Rice)
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Hi Michael,

The answer is: it depends. It helps to know what your target platform
is, such as what speed cd drive, Amount of RAM, and that sort of
thing. A safe bet for a general release cdrom is to output an avi
animation at the low-res camera setting which will give you 320x240
pixel dimensions. I usually output the avi uncompressed and then use
adobe premiere to chop it down - that is, compress it. Indeo 3.2
usually does a decent job, but YMMV. If you are targeting a platform
with 2x speed cd drives and the video is playing off the cd, you want
to make sure you limit the data rate of your avi to 200K/second at
max.. If you want more info, I'm available for consulting! Best of
luck to you,

John Rice


Michael Boeni <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hi Lightwavers,

>I am working on a short scifi - film of which I intend to preview
>certain passages on a pc.

>Could anyone give a hint on what settings (camera, record, etc) are to
>use to produce a goodlooking animation.

>The previews go onto a multimedia demo cd and should therefore be of
>good quality.

>I appreciate any hints!

>Cheers, Michael

>PS: Does anyone know a site where "known LW 5.0 bugs" are listed?



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From: [e-mail] (Robert Gougher)
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Haven't seen the Newsweek article yet, but Bruce Branit has a bunch of
stills on his web page at
http://www.idir.net/~bbranit/

You should also check out his dog*net page.

Rob

---
Robert A. Gougher
Software Engineer, Eastman Kodak Company
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail]
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In article <[e-mail]>, "Dean A. Scott" <[e-mail]>
writes:

>Help!  How do you set up the options?  I left them as default and
>varied the numbers slightly... no fix... the whole frame was
>blurred... not the just the surface it was applied to.

  I had SurfFuzz working before, but I don't understand why it would be
acting up like it is now.  I mean, the whole fuzziness of particles
flashes dim and bright whenever it feels the need to.... which is,
obviously, NOT what I need.  I'm not sure what it's doing to your image,
but I hope someone could help us soon.

David Carlson
CONTINUUM
3D graphics and animation

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In article <572k3b$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>
>I can't seem to get above URL. I can get to the doamain, but not the
>directory after the URL. Any other way to find out about Puppet
>Master.
>
>Alan
>
>

http://www.mindspring.com/~surferjoe

David Carlson
CONTINUUM
3D graphics and animation

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Date: 22 Nov 1996 08:20:54 GMT
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In article <56ua2h$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (BobaFett)
writes:

>
>What's the point of Detailer if you can't export LW Objects??
>
>

The idea behind Detailer (and MeshPaint) is to create *texture maps*, not
objects.  My plan would be to convert a LW object to DXF, import into
Detailer, create the textures, save them as TIF images, and then in
LightWave, use these images on the objects.  Of course, that's just plan
at this point, since I haven't yet received Detailer.

Hope this clarifies the situation,
-Marc

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From: Keith Frank <[e-mail]>
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Jean-Eric Hénault wrote:

>
> Some of you have probably already seen this new lip-sync, facial
> animation module for LightWave. I believe this may be a new plug-in that
> will be sold either separatelly, or as part of the new upgrade.
>
 Is this plugin available now.  If so where, how much, etc..

Keith Frank

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Matt Merkovich ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In the latest Newsweek magazine there is an article on the Titanic
: mini-series -an article which I haven't had time to read yet- featuring
: a big picture of the Titanic.  Was this photo done in lightwave?


Yes it was. Of course, I didn't see any credit given....

Oh Well..

JG

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From: [e-mail] (me)
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Subject: Re: Free Lightscape Seminars
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Megan Stewart <[e-mail]> wrote:
>COME TO A FREE SEMINAR ON LIGHTSCAPE for Windows NT or SGI!
>
>
>Demonstration on Windows NT:
>MTI College-Vertical Solution Seminars
>2011 W. Chapman Ave. Orange, CA 92868
>RSVP: (800)MTI-COLLEGE
>1st session:Thursday, Dec.5 9-11 am
>Registration and breakfast at 8:30am (Orange)
>Q&A: 11-11:30am
Here we go again... screw the people on the East Coast (other than
NY).

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Subject: Re: 3D ARTISTS wanted!!!!
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Marcel Chartrand <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I was doing 3d graphics and animation on my
>Etch-a-sketch when i was 3. Then they invented transistors.
>I now use huge computers.

Yeah this subj has been beaten to death since the orignal poster "3D
Artist's Wanted" never responded to any post, and never gave an email
address (good thing now, as he'd probably get a mail bomb)

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From: [e-mail] (BobaFett)
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What's the point of Detailer if you can't export LW Objects??

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>In article <[e-mail]>, Tareq Mirza <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>Has anyone had Meshpaint 3D demo crash when you open it and try
>>to edit an image? I got the demo with LightWave Power Guide and it
>>does not work. Thanks in advance for any help
>
>Yes, I had exactly this problem.  My philosophy is that a good demo
>doesn't crash.  I got a demo for 3DStudio that crashed my system, so I
>assumed that the actual program would too.  I'm about to order Detailer!
>
>-M.


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From: [e-mail] (er)
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Ernie Wright <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Jean-Eric Hénault wrote:

>> Winodows 1.0 was demoed back in 1983. The Macintosh was born in 1984
>> and the Amiga in late 1985.

>Windows was *announced* in November 1983, only two months before the Mac
>started shipping in January 1984, and 11 months AFTER the Apple Lisa was
>introduced.  Version 1.0 of Windows was released almost two years later,
>in November 1985, right around the time the first Amigas arrived.

>Windows 3.0, the first version to be really popular, was released in May
>1990.  The first version to directly support outline fonts came out in
>April 1992.  The first 32-bit version, also the first with pre-emptive
>multitasking, arrived in July 1993, but it was for a specialized market.
>The vast majority of Windows users wouldn't be invited to go 32-bit until
>August of last year, a full decade late.

>> Microsoft purchased a packaged called PC-DOS and renamed it MS-DOS.

>According to folklore, MS purchased something called QDOS, the Quick and
>Dirty OS.  "PC-DOS" was essentially what MS-DOS was called if it came
>bundled with IBM hardware.

>- Ernie                              http://www.access.digex.net/~erniew

Well, We should all check our history lessons, I believe Steve Jobs
"copied" the  GUI concept that was developed in the early "70's" by
Xerox,(they also invented some thing back then now called "e-mail".
Jobs was the first to expliot GUI's, but as recent years have shown
Mr. Bill was better at marketing his systems, and thats why I'm
writing this on a PC instead of a MAC. Amigas and Macs were cool for
there day, but can you multitask on either yet ?  no.


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From: Mike Young <[e-mail]>
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:18:18 -0800
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Hey Kids
    I just want to hear form anyone who upgraded to NT 4.0...I am
currently running 3.5.1... when I upgrade will the Lightwave interface
have to be reloaded?  Do I need a ton of extra ram?  is it even worth it?
Lots of crashes?

Pleas reply to my E-mail...

[e-mail]

Thanx in advance!!!

Mike Young

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From: [e-mail] (Shadow)
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what is (was) the last issue of lightwave pro?  last i recieved was april 96.
I would like to get all issues and then get a refund on the balance.

what about the disks?  haven't recieved a single one for 96

I will never opt for any publication from miller unfreeman.  they took over
what I considered the best lightwave publication and killed it dead, dead,
dead.  that and the fact that they are unbelieveably rude and difficult to
deal with.



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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
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On 22-Nov-96 10:55:02, Walter (Jay) Turberville  ([e-mail]) in
comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, re: <Re: Lightwave & 3d video game
development> said:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chuck
>Baker) writes:
>>From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
>>Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d video game development
>>Date: 19 Nov 96 19:04:40 +0500


>>On 17-Nov-96 13:57:47, Michael Sherrill ([e-mail]) in
>>comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, re: <Lightwave & 3d video game
>>development> said:
>>>I've been trying to get an idea of which 3d packages game developers
>>>are using for playstation, sega, etc.

>>>I'd appreciate any info anyone can provide on major game developers
>>>using lightwave, and also any drawbacks to using 3ds max for the same
>>>(besides the obvious!)

>>>Mike Sherrill
>>>Pixelmedia Group
>>>[e-mail]
>>>http://members.tripod.com/~Pixel

>>Sony now has a developer package based around Lightwave.  They are
>>currently offering these in Japan, but will be offering them world-wide
>>within a few months.

>>======================================================================
>>Chuck Baker -- NewTek, Inc., Technical Support Services
>>======================================================================
>>Tech Support Email: [e-mail]      //  Tech BBS 913-271-9299


>I saw this announcement.  A producer we know sent it to us.  What was odd
>was  that LW 4.0 was specified.  Not LW 5.0.

Sony is using LW 4.0 for their developer package.  Developers who purchase
the package will have an upgrade path to 5.0.

======================================================================
Chuck Baker -- NewTek, Inc., Technical Support Services
======================================================================
Tech Support Email: [e-mail]      //  Tech BBS 913-271-9299
Compuserve: Go AmigaVend, Go DTVforum   // or telnet bbs.newtek.com
America Online: keyword NewTek          \\ Web: http://www.newtek.com
Telephone: [phone] AM to 8PM CST \\   FTP:  ftp.newtek.com
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From: Curt Gandy <[e-mail]>
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Shadow wrote:
>
> what is (was) the last issue of lightwave pro?  last i recieved was april 96.
> I would like to get all issues and then get a refund on the balance.
>
> what about the disks?  haven't recieved a single one for 96
>
> I will never opt for any publication from miller unfreeman.  they took over
> what I considered the best lightwave publication and killed it dead, dead,
> dead.  that and the fact that they are unbelieveably rude and difficult to
> deal with.

I just got an October issue this week. It was my first and last issue. I
understand that my remaining subscription will be applied to 3D Design
mag. I never did receive a disk. I'm none too happy with Miller Freeman,
either.

Curt Gandy
World In Motion Productions
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: amiga vs. ppro200
Date: 22 Nov 1996 21:02:03 -0700
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>When I installed a programme it didn't put files all over the hard
>drive. Most times it built a directory and added a line to the startup
>sequence. Deleting it was simple. I could do in 10MB ram on the Amiga
>what the PC only just manages with 32MB (Talking Lightwave here) so
>something is clearly wrong.

For what its worth, I ran LW 4.0 successfully on a 4mb 486-33 notebook.  Slow,
but it ran.  Pretty sure you couldn't do that on an Amiga (perhaps could with
3rd party software.  Windows has virtual memory built in.  I'm not flaming
the Amiga, just getting the record straight.  The Amiga did multitask MUCH
better than Win 3.1.

>Wil Mobberley  - 3D graphic artist
>Web site: http://www.mobydick.demon.co.uk
>------------------------------------------------------------

Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <5756bu$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (er) writes:

>Well, We should all check our history lessons, I believe Steve Jobs
>"copied" the  GUI concept that was developed in the early "70's" by
>Xerox,(they also invented some thing back then now called "e-mail".
>Jobs was the first to expliot GUI's, but as recent years have shown
>Mr. Bill was better at marketing his systems, and thats why I'm
>writing this on a PC instead of a MAC. Amigas and Macs were cool for
>there day, but can you multitask on either yet ?  no.

Please re-read your history books.  The Amiga OS is an excellent multi-tasker.
 Has been for some time.




Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail]
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Check out my new META-NURBS object section!!! It has free objects that
are not converted to polygons so you can continue to modify them.

The 3 on there now are: Human hand, Silverware (knife, fork, spoon), and
a rough figure of a man that can be used to practice animation.

I have made a few more additions to the page and the tutorials are going
to be avaiable soon!!!


ENJOY!!!

***************************************************
  - WONKA'S COMPUTER ANIMATION PAGE SPECTACULAR -
        http://kalypso.cybercom.net/~wonka
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From: nkshivan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: New Lightwave Version 1997
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:09:26 +0000
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Steve Kellener wrote:
>
> Do you know anything about the Mac version of Lightwave?
>
> Can we expect it soon?  I haven't heard too much about it.

 end of December/ early January...

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From: [e-mail] (David Hopkins)
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Date: 20 Nov 1996 03:15:05 -0700
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My understandiing is that those issue were already at press when the
decision was made....remember, magazines are usually created three
months before you see them.

That also explains why John talks about the great changes coming up
for LWPro, and why there is a "In The Next Issue" teaser :)

I should point out agin, while I'm here, that Taming The Wave is
moving to 3DArtist magazine starting with the next issue (#27) due in
late December/January...


-David Hopkins
Lighthouse Imaging/Mach Universe
http://www.primenet.com/~lthouse




[e-mail] ("Phil South") wrote:


>> >The rumors you have heard about LWPRO and VTU are true. Miller
>> Freeman, >the new owners of the Avid publications have decided (for
>> reasons beyond >my control and/or understanding) to terminate both
>> LWPRO and VTU. A press >release will be posted (if it hasn't already).
>> >
>> >I'd like to thank all of you who have stuck with LWPRO over the
>> years....
>> >
>> >John Gross
>> >editor (former), LWPRO

>What I don't get is why both LWPro and VTU have subscription forms in
>them, even the issue which arrived yesterday. I suppose that they will
>coerce you into taking out a sub to 3D Artist instead?

>---
>----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Titanic mini-series featured in Newsweek
Date: 23 Nov 1996 06:39:46 GMT
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Matt Merkovich ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In the latest Newsweek magazine there is an article on the Titanic
: mini-series -an article which I haven't had time to read yet- featuring
: a big picture of the Titanic.  Was this photo done in lightwave?

Yes, this was a still from night one of Titanic. It is a frame right out
of a scene for the show, just rendered at print resolution.

We kept kept pushing the camera closer and closer to the Titanic after we
realised the incredible level of detail Bob Peppler and the modellers were
achieving.

It's nice to know that your work holds up under such high resolutions.

Bruce Branit
Digital Muse

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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: What about Martin Hash's 3-Dimensional Animation?
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>Laura Rogers wrote:
>>
>> Animation Master is a nice "toy" but a waste of time for any serious work....
>>
>> most of it's "features" are very non-standard.
>
>Hahaha, you have got to be kidding. Have you talked to any professional
>character animators? AM and MH3D are the tools of choice for many
>...blah, blah...
>next to Softimage and PA. Nothing else on the PC or Mac comes close. I
>would call its UI non standard, but there is nothing non-standard about
>its feature list.
>
>Jeff

Too right, Jeff!

Considering you can get the low end version for around US$190, this
program is brilliant value! (Heck, try and get a copy of LW or 3DS for
that price!)

I ordered a copy - I will admit that it is a little difficult to get
started with - The interface isn't my favourite and the Video manual
only being in NTSC (While I have PAL!) was a pain...

But, once you get to grips with the interface, you quickly see that
MH3d is *no* toy!  Having Spline animation, Object overloading (Being
able to animate several parts at once) with stride-length (No 'sliding
feet') as standard features make this probably the best *character
animation* tool I know of!

Kevman.

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From: [e-mail] (Carter Tune)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Oxygen  102 Graphics Card?
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On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:24:43 -0500, Matt Gottshalk <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Anybody have a good take on this beast??
>
>The brochure looks pretty good, it has LW listed as one of the 3D apps
>it supports....does it accelerate the open GL in LW??
>

We're getting two P6-200b systems in shortly, I'll post a
review/comparison between the oxygen, matrox, number nine, and diamond
cards.



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G.P. Tootell ([e-mail]) wrote:
: |> Monthly fees:  $25 per month for 25 megs of space and 2,000 hits per
: |> month on your site.
: |>
: |> Added optional expenses:  For each meg over the 25 mentioned above, the
: |> fee is $5 dollars.  For more hits per month, you can pay an extra $5 per
: |> 1,000 hits.
:
: how on earth do you guarentee a set number of 'hits' like this?

    He doesn't guarantee anything, just limits
up to 2000 hits for your $25.

--

                         Slobodan Mihajlovic

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From: Geoff Suttor <[e-mail]>
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Carter Tune wrote:
>
> On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:24:43 -0500, Matt Gottshalk <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
> >Anybody have a good take on this beast??
> >
> >The brochure looks pretty good, it has LW listed as one of the 3D apps
> >it supports....does it accelerate the open GL in LW??
> >
>
> We're getting two P6-200b systems in shortly, I'll post a
> review/comparison between the oxygen, matrox, number nine, and diamond
> cards.

You mean two systems with oxygen cards? I would REALLY appreciate any
info on it's performance with a PPRO-200. What is the cost of the
Oxygen cards in US$?
--
Geoff Suttor
Animator.
Digital Video Productions Australia.
WK: mailto:[e-mail]
HM: mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.powerup.com.au/~gefbec

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From: [e-mail] (Michael C. Ling)
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Subject: Re: Animating Metanurbs not metaforms
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I just checked; it's on page 159 in the LW3D reference manual under
metaform_shaper and metaform_target. Metamation lets you use an
unfrozen metanurbs object in layout; it involves loading in two
versions of the object, a metanurbs version and metaformplus version.
The whole procedure is on pages 159-160.

MCL-

wilson <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I checked the manual again and the metamation.p makes no reference to
>any control over Metanurbs.....Do you know something they don't?
>
>Michael C. Ling wrote:
>>
>> Wilson Tang <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> >Does anyone know if Newtek or any one else is planning to write a plugin
>> >to allow metanurbs to be animated in layout by bones, keyframes etc.
>> >without having to be converted to polygons first?
>> >Just think this would give me one more reason to claim LW5.0 as the best
>> >3d soft bar none;)
>>
>> You can do it already. Look it up in the manual under "metamation".
>>
>> MCL-


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From: Aaron Estrada <[e-mail]>
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Walter (Jay) Turberville wrote:
>
> In article <5756bu$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (er) writes:
>
> >Well, We should all check our history lessons, I believe Steve Jobs
> >"copied" the  GUI concept that was developed in the early "70's" by
> >Xerox,(they also invented some thing back then now called "e-mail".
> >Jobs was the first to expliot GUI's, but as recent years have shown
> >Mr. Bill was better at marketing his systems, and thats why I'm
> >writing this on a PC instead of a MAC. Amigas and Macs were cool for
> >there day, but can you multitask on either yet ?  no.
>
> Please re-read your history books.  The Amiga OS is an excellent multi-tasker.
>  Has been for some time.

A little understated there Jay! The Amiga totally kicked ass LONG before
the PeeCee was even out of it's "it-sucks" stage. OF course, it's glory
days have passed.

BTW, the Mac has "Multitasked" since before the PC too, never as well as
the Amiga though.


-Aaron
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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
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Subject: Re: What's the latest dongle policy?
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On 22-Nov-96 03:15:09, ridgeway ([e-mail]) in
comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, re: <What's the latest dongle policy?> said:
>I have LW 4.0. I want to upgrade to LW 5.0.
>I havent used LW in a while and I think my dongle
>does not work. So what is the latest dongle policy.

>Thanks
>Alan

You would need to call NewTek Tech Support for an RMA for the hardware
key.  The option most commonly used is simply to get the RMA, send your
hardware key in, we repair or replace it as needed, and return it by the
same shipping priority which you used to ship it to us.  With credit card
to secure $1500 surety, we also offer an exchange cross-ship plan, with an
expedite option available for $25.

======================================================================
Chuck Baker -- NewTek, Inc., Technical Support Services
======================================================================
Tech Support Email: [e-mail]      //  Tech BBS 913-271-9299
Compuserve: Go AmigaVend, Go DTVforum   // or telnet bbs.newtek.com
America Online: keyword NewTek          \\ Web: http://www.newtek.com
Telephone: [phone] AM to 8PM CST \\   FTP:  ftp.newtek.com
======================================================================

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From: [e-mail] (BobaFett)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: !!!!!! Power Texture Plugin<- NEVER WORKED!! USELESS!@   NEVER WORKED!!!
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>i have tried Power Texture,
>it is ok if you use a bmp under NT.

IT IS NOT OK!! It doesn't crash, but IT DOESN'T WORK EITHER!!!!!


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Yes the FTP is very unclear & out of date. PowerTexture would be Super,
super usefull if it would work right in NT or Not!

Texture support in OpenGL is what we need, Sorta what PowerTexture was
for,

I wouldn't say LW5 is full of bugs though. It's still a Zillion times
better than 3D StudioMax!

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>BobaFett wrote:
>> >Looks like it. Mine works fine with NT and crashes as described under
>> >95.
>> >
>> >
>Come on Newtek. Your demo at Digital Media World in London was average
>next to Max and Alias. And now you ship software that is full of bugs
>with a out of date FTP site.
>
>How do we know which file is the latest?????
>
>What a bad service for 995 pounds!!!!
>
>Repair the power texture under 95 and give us LW 5.2 free!!!!! (With
>texture support in open GL like Max!!!!)
>
>I am a Lightwave die hard but you don't make it easy!!!!!
>
>Adamski


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From: [e-mail] (BobaFett)
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Subject: Re: Power Texture Plugin
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IT DOESN't WORK UNDER NT either!!!!! It functions but it doesn't save
properly, or something. It is quite USELESS in it's current state!


In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> I cannot get this plugin to work.  When I try to load a bitmap
image(any
>> kind: iff;tiff;bmp, etc.) I get a dialog that says, "Could not load
>> bitmap image," when I hit 'OK' it closes Modeler.  I heard a rumor that
>> this plugin doesn't work under Windows 95, is this true?
>>
>> PaulHi,
>        Yes you are correct. It does not work under Win95 as there is a
>conflict or problem with the Open-GL support in Win95. Works fine under
>Win-NT. I have the same problem. It's worth, I think moving to NT. I
>probably will in the near future when NT 4.0 is as stable as 3.51.
>Hope this answers your question.
>
>                Bye,
>                        Stefan v Cavallar


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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:31:13 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: re: lighting problems in LightWave 5.0
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I am a student working on a video project in school.  I am trying to
incorporate LightWave 5.0 into the project to add some special effects.
I have recently designed a clock with working gear mechanisms, pendulum,
etc in modeler and I am now ready to render the animation in layout,
however I am having some difficulty getting the lights the way I want.
The problem is this.  I apply textures and colors to all the surfaces, and
then select the various lights that I want to use and position them
accordingly.(So far I am just using 3 lights)Then I choose to render just 1
frame at low res at 640x480 with ten segments.  The picture renders, but then
when I choose "continue" at the next prompt to finish my layout, all the light
setting that I previously set go back to their default settings.  All the lights
go back to the center of each axis, and are no longer positioned the way they
should be.  Now that's not all.  If I choose to view my scene in Open GL,
I can only see the results (the actual color of the light on the surface
of the object) from one light even if I have all the lights checked "on"
in the settings menu.  Is there a way to solve these problems?  Please let me
know as soon as posslible.
Thank you

-Ryan Dunn
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From: Ben Cannon <[e-mail]>
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Marc Wolff wrote:
>
> Does anyone have an educated guess as to when LightWave 3D will be
> available for the SGI O2 that runs IRIX 6.3?

LW3D Version 4.0 is out now, version 5.0 is ready for it's mid-December
release!


> Thanks in advance.
>
> Marc
>
> --
> Marc Wolff
> [e-mail]

--
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From: [e-mail] (Laura Rogers)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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Well, I'll just answer all these nice flames at once. Obviously having a
personal opinion or preference is not allowed around here, and the fact
that I didn't care for Animation Master is suddenly flame mail that I
know nothing about computers or "professional" animation.


well sorry wrong on all accounts.


I have been an AutoCad operator designer since 1988, Lightwave/Video
Toaster animator since 1991, 3D Studio since 1994, Lightwave 5.0 since it
came out. I use computer animation software every day and make a really
good living at it.

To the guy who made the sour grapes comment, perhaps you can explain
where you see that in my post? I expressed my personal opinion......
last time I checked those are allowed.

To Ken Howard, the sexist moron out there, you sir are just plain
ignorant. You didn't have the balls to place your sexist comments and
insults in a public message area nad resorted to sending me your garbage
as e-mail.

I bought and used Animation Master. there are no sour grapes....I just
plain didn't like it period. why should I waste my time on this program
when I can do all this in Lightwave 5.0 anyway? why should I have to use
3 or more different programs to do what one will already do?


As far as "professional" character animators go, why don't we see real
stuff with animation Master? so far all I have seen is a credit on Sesame
Street. Gee I'm impressed.

One would have to ask why was Lightwave used for the M&M commercials
instead of Animation master if Animation Master is so good?

why didn't Digital Muse use Animation Master to animate all the little
people on the Titanic?

Why did Fox use Lightwave 5.0 for the "Jurassic Park" episode of sliders
to do the Allosaurus, why not Animation Master?

why is it that Babylon 5 uses Lightwave instead of Animation Master?
certainly many of the ships on B5 are done looking very organic,
something that is supposed to be Animation Masters strong point.


It would seem to me that if Animation Master were such a "professional"
grade product, it would be getting used more in T.V and film than just
doing Sesame Street.


Animation Master fills a low end niche market. It is marketed and sold to
casual users who can't afford high end packages they don't really need.





You guys want to flame me for it fine. Show your immaturity. I didn't
even thrash on Animation Master, all I said is it is a nice toy, I didn't
rant and rave and say it sucks or anything that could even be constituted
as bagging on it, so I stand by my comment, it's a nice toy.



you want to make a living get Lightwave or Max or something that is a
professional level product.

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>>I believe it comes with a number of shaders built into the code but WILL
NOT
read or "compile" ASCII shader files. >>

I think thats right.  It would be really cool if DR could actually sell
their technology to port renderman ascii shaders to LW textrure plugins,
or even create a LW plug in that reads a RM ascii file directly and
creates an interface to the parameters of that shader (tough b/c it can be
difficul to determine a shaders parameters from just the ascii).

As a side note, I was told yesteday that a similar product is under
development for Max that will enable you to port over rm shaders to max
shaders.

-H
-H

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On Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:31:13 -0600, [e-mail]
wrote:

>I am a student working on a video project in school.  I am trying to
>incorporate LightWave 5.0 into the project to add some special effects.
>I have recently designed a clock with working gear mechanisms, pendulum,
>etc in modeler and I am now ready to render the animation in layout,
>however I am having some difficulty getting the lights the way I want.
>The problem is this.  I apply textures and colors to all the surfaces, and
>then select the various lights that I want to use and position them
>accordingly.(So far I am just using 3 lights)Then I choose to render just 1
>frame at low res at 640x480 with ten segments.  The picture renders, but then
>when I choose "continue" at the next prompt to finish my layout, all the light
>setting that I previously set go back to their default settings.  All the lights
>go back to the center of each axis, and are no longer positioned the way they
>should be.  Now that's not all.  If I choose to view my scene in Open GL,
>I can only see the results (the actual color of the light on the surface
>of the object) from one light even if I have all the lights checked "on"
>in the settings menu.  Is there a way to solve these problems?  Please let me
>know as soon as posslible.
>Thank you

    Ok, here's one MANY people forget:

    After moving and setting the lights, did you set a keyframe
for each?  Then did you save the scene?
    I know it sounds simple but I've done this one many times.
    As for OpenGL you have to specify the # of lights in the scene
to be using GL.  It doesn't matter if you have it set on with 10
lights in the scene if you only have it set for 1 to be GL'ed.
    Hope this helps

Bob

>-Ryan Dunn
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From: [e-mail] (Creative Visions)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: LW Pics to 35mm Negative/Slide $15each!!
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We normally only use this for our own in-house functions, but have
recently decided to open the service to the public. If any of you fellow
Lightwavers have ever wanted to see your work on FILM, where you can take
a negative to ANY photo lab, drug store, or Wal-Mart and make copies for
your friends, relatives, whatever.. this service is for you.

Render size can be 752X480, no need for hires, or print resolution. We
did a CD cover for a band, and had not yet had this service at our
fingertips. When I made a neg of the cover just for a test, it was
absolutely PHENOMENAL!! The detail was better, no "Jaggies", and looked
SOOOO good on a glossy print. Any serious lightwaver should consider
getting their work saved to film.. It's well worth it, and now it's
available for an afforable price.

I am not a huge company, I am a lightwave artist who is absolutely
thrilled with the results, and would love to share with the rest of the
LW community. E-Mail [e-mail] and I'll give you more info on how to
transfer your files to me, and payment methods.


Marc

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HELLO EVERTBODY,

I've got a few questions.I'm a student in animation and i'm tying to
figure out wich 3D software to buy: should I chose LIGHTWAVE or 3D MAX
If you can please tell me the difference between the two and what you
think about them.

I also wanted to know where i can find Shareware plugins for lightwave.

I hope you can make an effort and replay .

Thanks.



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I'm a relative newcomer to LW and I cannot save my annimations, I have
loaded the HIIP plug-in and can get LW4 to ask me to enter a filename, but
when I render, the file is not saved, any help would be appreciated.


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Austin)
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[e-mail] (Creative Visions) wrote:


       This service is available with 4000 line resolution
      everywhere for 5.00 bucks each.


>We normally only use this for our own in-house functions, but have
>recently decided to open the service to the public. If any of you fellow
>Lightwavers have ever wanted to see your work on FILM, where you can take
>a negative to ANY photo lab, drug store, or Wal-Mart and make copies for
>your friends, relatives, whatever.. this service is for you.

>Render size can be 752X480, no need for hires, or print resolution. We
>did a CD cover for a band, and had not yet had this service at our
>fingertips. When I made a neg of the cover just for a test, it was
>absolutely PHENOMENAL!! The detail was better, no "Jaggies", and looked
>SOOOO good on a glossy print. Any serious lightwaver should consider
>getting their work saved to film.. It's well worth it, and now it's
>available for an afforable price.

>I am not a huge company, I am a lightwave artist who is absolutely
>thrilled with the results, and would love to share with the rest of the
>LW community. E-Mail [e-mail] and I'll give you more info on how to
>transfer your files to me, and payment methods.


>Marc

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: DXF and Modelar crash?
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Does anyone know why Modelar would crash on me when I try to load in a DXF
object from a CAD program? I used the object import plugin and thought things
would work, but when I hit the ok button, Modelar would crash giving me a Dr.
Watson error message......??? What's up with this? I need to get these things
to work for a job I am doing. The client supplied the objects and told me they
were DXF and he was told by the people who made them that they are a standard
format for CAD. I sure hope I don't have to spend more money on some sort of
conversion program just to get them to work? Anyway, thanx for any info
someone can give me on this..........md :)
MD arts
Mark Dunakin
[e-mail]
http://tmisnet.com/~M.D/Index.html

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From: [e-mail] (Carlos Rego)
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check it out

 http://www.ebay.com/aw/item.cgi?item=mwt975

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From: Torsten Westphal <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Yes it is possible. In Modeller open up the Tools panel and click on the
> plugin Translator3D_Export, then you choose the DXF file format. The
> options for how it converts it into a DXF are in the Object's panel list
> of Plugins under Translator3D_Options, or something like that.

Hi,

I've tried this and there seems no option to tell him to export in DXF
or what so ever. How does this work?

Thx. Torsten

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From: [e-mail] (Michael C. Ling)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Animating Metanurbs
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I am not sure I understand what you mean, but metamation does allow
you to animate metanurb objects(not frozen) in layout. The process
involves using a metanurbs object and a metaformplus'ed version of the
metanurbs object simultaneously in layout. Metamation, I think, only
allows one level of polygon subvision selected; you can not mix and
match subdivisions.

M C L -

"Tom Taylor" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>metamation is a different process to metanurbs, the subdivisions are not as
>controllable in metamation & the smoothing is slightly different. You can
>use morph targets with metanurbs but you must convert each shape to
>polygons and not select
>automatic.
>--

>Michael C. Ling <[e-mail]>
>> Wilson Tang <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> >Does anyone know if Newtek or any one else is planning to write a plugin
>> >to allow metanurbs to be animated in layout by bones, keyframes etc.
>> >without having to be converted to polygons first?
>>
>> You can do it already. Look it up in the manual under "metamation".




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From: [e-mail] (zoo)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: ATI 3D TURBO PC2TV vs MATROX MILLENIUM
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You guys got it all wrong.  ATI compares their 3D EXPRESSION to the MYSTIQUE
and the PRO TURBO to the MILLENIUM.  The 1st comparison are both 3D gaming
solutions, and the other comparison are both professional 2D solutions.  That's
why one has all these 3D features like bi-linear filters and the other doesn't
hardly have any 3D features(MILLENIUM that is).  The EXPRESSION still has a lot
more features than the MYSTIQUE plus it's performance is alot better.  The
MILLENIUM is probably faster than the other 3 but this is 2D performance, and
it doesn't do such a good job in DOS.  Not bad, but it does go down a little.
BUT...it's the professional card meant for 2D win95 and not for games or DOS.
I don't know about the PRO TURNO and MILLENIUM combination.  But I've read alot
about the other 2 and I have the EXPRESSION myself, and I had a STEALTH 3D 2000
also.  The ATI EXPRESSION +PC2TV has a 2nd generation of the 3D RAGE chipset
and it's alot faster.  And it has the best software playback of AVI/MPEG, and
it has the most 3D functions, and still without being any more expensive it has
composite/VHS and SVHS output to tv.  This is nice for me b/c I do some 3D
graphics and it gives me a means of output to tape.

BUT there's lots of info, websites, and reviews on the web about comparison of
these cards.





>i would like to get to the bottom of this too.  if you check out
>http://www.atitech.ca/graphics/3dxpre/3dxpre.html ati only compares their
>card to the matrox mystique not the millenium.  it seems to me ( and please
>correct/flame me if i am wrong ) that ati is trying to compare apples to
>oranges by comparing their bilinear texturing to matrox's non-bilinear
>texturing.  also i am put off by ati's and matrox's he-said/she-said finger
>pointing about false advertising claims.  anybody out there done a
>subjective comparison using lightwave??
>
>Robert Gougher <[e-mail]> wrote in article
><56va0o$[e-mail]>...
>> Anyone want to venture opinions on one or both?
>>
>> The ATI card seems a better deal, yet Matrox seems to get better
>> lip service. Can someone explain why this is?
>>
>> Does ATI have some hidden flaws (like Diamond with their driver policy?)
>> Robert A. Gougher
>> Software Engineer, Eastman Kodak Company
>> [e-mail]
>> [e-mail]
>> [e-mail]
>> http://www.servtech.com/public/gougher
>>
>>
>>


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I create animations of architecture, but I don't really have a good
looking light-bulb color.  does anyone know the RGB of like a 60 watt
light bulb?

Much appreciated!

[e-mail]

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Subject: Re: What about Martin Has
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On 11-17-96, [e-mail]  was going on about Re: What about Martin
Has


  >I would also like to second this. I use Lightwave & the thought of
  >suplementing LW with Animation Master is interesting, Does anybody on
  >this news group use both on a regular basis, & if so, please let us
  >know what you think????????

  >Tom Taylor
  >mailto:[e-mail]
  >http://londo.dvp.com.au/~tomt


  >Joseph Maas <[e-mail]> wrote in article
  >> <[e-mail]>... And or Hash's Anamation Master software?
  >> I would like to hear from users regarding: Program stability?
  >> Rendering speed? Capability? Professional level software? Can you
  >> meet real deadlines with the package?


I have both apps, but only recently got LW 5.0 upgrade. I've been
experimenting with the integration of LW 4 and AM 4 for awhile, but
Hash's feature list just expanded for MultiPlane (their compositing app)
and I haven't had the time available to check most of it out. One
problem I did encounter earlier though was that the Hash tool needed TGA
files that contained the alpha information rather than separate files. I
could never get the 32-bit TGA file saver to work in LW 4 so hopwfully
that's fixed in 5.0.

In any case, I'm confident that the potential to combine elements of
both is or soon will be there.

M.

---
 þ CMPQwk 1.426 When choosing between two evils, select the newer one.

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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>troberts wrote:
>>
>>         Hello all you graphics users. I would like to get in touch with
users
>> in the Melbourne, Florida area to share some art,meet some people interested
in
>> computer graphics, or just talk about problems,preferences and solutions
>> concerning all the different hardware & software.
>>
>>         I am fairly new to computer animation, and find it very interesting.
I
>> am currently using Impulse's Imagine and Hash 3d Animation.
>>
>>         Anyone interested in discussing computer graphics feel free to send
me
>> some E-mail at [e-mail].
>
>
>I'm not in Melbourne, but Orlando, which isn't too far away. I'm the Art
>Director a Stage 22 Imaging. We have the largest concentration of LW
>users in Orlando in one building.
>Check our Web site for images and info. http://www.stage22.com
>
>--
>"Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy, until you can find a rock"
>                                                   Joe Bob Briggs
Hey David, thanks for the reply. I will check out your site. Orlando eh! yea I
think I've heard of that little town before:)

Is there a users group at stage 22?

Todd


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From: "Meme-X" <[e-mail]>
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Arnie Boedecker <[e-mail]> wrote in article <56v0dj$[e-mail]>...
> Subject says it all.  We need a plugin that will allow Lightwave to
> import a 3DSMax object, or will allow 3dsMax to export a LW object.
>
> We need the object to retain the quad-polygon info, and not turn
> everything into triangles, that is why we can't use the old 3DS
> file converter.
>
> Anything available like this?  Thanks.


  No way.  #1: MAX doesn't really have it's own object format.  The closest
is a *.3ds file.
   #2:  MAX doesn't (currently) support quad geometry.


  Kreg
 Meme-X

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> Aaron Estrada <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Aaron Estrada <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Bill Gates copied Apple's OS!!! HA!!!!
>Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 03:12:21 +0000

>Walter (Jay) Turberville wrote:
>>
>> In article <5756bu$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (er) writes:
>>
>> >Well, We should all check our history lessons, I believe Steve Jobs
>> >"copied" the  GUI concept that was developed in the early "70's" by
>> >Xerox,(they also invented some thing back then now called "e-mail".
>> >Jobs was the first to expliot GUI's, but as recent years have shown
>> >Mr. Bill was better at marketing his systems, and thats why I'm
>> >writing this on a PC instead of a MAC. Amigas and Macs were cool for
>> >there day, but can you multitask on either yet ?  no.
>>
>> Please re-read your history books.  The Amiga OS is an excellent multi-tasker.
>>  Has been for some time.

>A little understated there Jay! The Amiga totally kicked ass LONG before
>the PeeCee was even out of it's "it-sucks" stage. OF course, it's glory
>days have passed.

>BTW, the Mac has "Multitasked" since before the PC too, never as well as
>the Amiga though.


>-Aaron
>--

As a somewhat objective comparison, I used to transfer files to and from the
Amiga via serial port and standard comm programs.  I could be rendering on the
Amiga and it would sustain 57kbs throughput.  On the PC, I had to drop to DOS.
 Windows simply throttled the operation.  That was with a Windows program or
with a DOS program running under Windows.  Win95 is much better than Win 3.1.
But it probably isn't as good as the Amiga (purely subjective impression).  Of
course Pentium and above processors are more than enough compensation.


Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <577qo6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael Austin) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Michael Austin)
>Subject: Re: LW Pics to 35mm Negative/Slide $15each!!
>Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:38:18 GMT

>[e-mail] (Creative Visions) wrote:


>       This service is available with 4000 line resolution
>      everywhere for 5.00 bucks each.

>>We normally only use this for our own in-house functions, but have
>>recently decided to open the service to the public. If any of you fellow
>>Lightwavers have ever wanted to see your work on FILM, where you can take
>>a negative to ANY photo lab, drug store, or Wal-Mart and make copies for
>>your friends, relatives, whatever.. this service is for you.

>>Marc

Yep.  And I don't see how rendering to 752x480 is going to amazingly reduce
"jaggies" .







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> > > Defectors from 3DStudio like myself might have noticed, alongside a
> > > huge sense of relief, that there's no "exclude" button on the lights
> > > panel - i.e. no easy way to get a light to hit only non-excluded
> > > objects. Has anyone thought of creating a plugin to fill this void,
or
> > > is this just not an option for a raytracer?
> >
> >                 Have you tried using the No Diffuse
> >                 or No Specular settings?
> >
> >                 Just a thought.
> >
> >                 Dan
>
> Doh!!!!
>
> No, good Idea (Sometime's the simple things)

  DOH!  Bad idea!  The ability to exclude something from a light doesn't
mean you want to screw up the surface of the object.  It's main use is to
give an object unique lighting in a scene...

  Kreg
 Meme-X

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>For what its worth, I ran LW 4.0 successfully on a 4mb 486-33 notebook.
>Slow,  but it ran.  Pretty sure you couldn't do that on an Amiga (perhaps
>could with
>3rd party software.  Windows has virtual memory built in.  I'm not flaming
>the Amiga, just getting the record straight.  The Amiga did multitask MUCH
>better than Win 3.1.

Sure your not flaming the amiga. But virtual memory is
ample available for the amiga - who cares if it's 3rd party
software or not.

Brian Meidell AKA [e-mail]
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Yours works fine??? Can you map a face onto a head??? Everytime I try,
when reloaded as a Custom UV map, all the resizing & positioning that
was done in PwrTextr is gone!! The eyes end up on the scalp, etc?!?!!

NOBODY!! NOBODY!!! NOBODY in this whole Newsgroup or from Newtek has
helped me..


HAS ANYONE GOT THIS DAM PLUGIN TO WORK PROPERLY!?!?!  I'd actually like to
use this feature IF IT WORKS!!

In article <56v6ja$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>"[e-mail]" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>I cannot get this plugin to work.  When I try to load a bitmap image(any
>>kind: iff;tiff;bmp, etc.) I get a dialog that says, "Could not load
>>bitmap image," when I hit 'OK' it closes Modeler.  I heard a rumor that
>>this plugin doesn't work under Windows 95, is this true?
>
>>Paul
>
>Looks like it. Mine works fine with NT and crashes as described under
>95.
>
>


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From: [e-mail] (David Hoelzer)
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If I understand you properly, on 23 Nov 1996 09:55:11 GMT you,
[e-mail] (Laura Rogers),  said:

>Animation Master fills a low end niche market. It is marketed and sold to
>casual users who can't afford high end packages they don't really need.
>

I've never even had the slightest inkling that a customer was remotely
beginning to consider speculating whether or not they should use
Animation Master over Lightwave or 3DS...

>you want to make a living get Lightwave or Max or something that is a
>professional level product

Here here...

There's a great difference between discussion and diatribe.  Useful
and intelligent critiques of another's comments can be beneficial...
Flaming someone for expressing an opinion (which can lead to
discussion...  believe it or not...) does nothing but waste your
life...  Well..  That's if you have a life to waste... (Sorry..
Couldn't resist..)

I'll probably get flamed for this anyway.. ;)
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The problem with that machine is it is Vapor Ware right now. If it ever
reaches the market its developers (software) will either be broke or have
migrated to the PC. It is not economically viable to develop software for
the Amiga, in whatever form it will take. I wish that was not so. While we
wait for a dual Alpha AmigaOS machine, Windows NT already has one with the
newest raptor. It is running two 500Mhz alphas right now. With fx32 it has
access to all WIN32 compliant software running at native speeds. The
AmigaOS box will have a massive shortage of software, The NT boxes have
huge amounts of software.

--
Brad Bowman
Digital Artist
http://members.aol.com/bmocgraph

Geoff Suttor <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> Brad Bowman wrote:
>
> > Some have posted about the resurrection of the Amiga 4000 tower and how
it
> > is the return of the Amy but they are only kidding themselves. A
computer
> > using an 040 or even an 060 are using a chip that is at the end of its
life
> > cycle. An with current pricing, the Amiga is no longer the computer to
give
> > the most bang for the buck, it is now a very expensive computer indeed.
>
> Agreed, seconded, totaly right! :) Youd have to be kidding to think an
> '040
> or '060 could compete, but, how about an "A/BOX" computer running duel
> PowerPC or Alpha cpu's with an AmigaOS (advanced), now wouldn't that be
> bloody brilliant!! :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Geoff Suttor
> Animator.
> Digital Video Productions Australia.
> WK: mailto:[e-mail]
> HM: mailto:[e-mail]
> http://www.powerup.com.au/~gefbec
>

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>A little understated there Jay! The Amiga totally kicked ass LONG before
>the PeeCee was even out of it's "it-sucks" stage. OF course, it's glory
>days have passed.

>BTW, the Mac has "Multitasked" since before the PC too, never as well as
>the Amiga though.

If you compare the pc's raw processing power to it's speed
of multitasking to the amigas same, you will see that even
the a500 multitasked better than windows V.anything does
today.

This is not an understatement!.

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From: [e-mail] (Hakki Alacakaptan)
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Subject: Re: Lights "exclude" plugin?
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"Dan Ablan" <[e-mail]> wrote:



>Hakki Alacakaptan <[e-mail]> wrote in article
><56v6jq$[e-mail]>...
>> Defectors from 3DStudio like myself might have noticed, alongside a
>> huge sense of relief, that there's no "exclude" button on the lights
>> panel - i.e. no easy way to get a light to hit only non-excluded
>> objects. Has anyone thought of creating a plugin to fill this void, or
>> is this just not an option for a raytracer?

>        Have you tried using the No Diffuse
>        or No Specular settings?
>
>        Just a thought.

>        Dan
I'm talking about a particular light not hitting a particular object
although that object is within the light's cone and range. If this
feature existed you could light an object with a raytrace spot without
getting shadows on excluded objects. Good way to get some extra
highlights on a bump- and transparency-mapped object without throwing
shadows all over the place. Invaluable for faking radiosity.






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From: Manfred Linzner <[e-mail]>
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Subject: 3d->2d Projection ?
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I´m writing a "LIGHTWAVE-Scenes" based 3D-project.
Everything went fine, BUT my 3d -> 2d projection don´t works
exactly like the view in Lightwave.

I used something like

u=(x*d)/(z+d)
v=(y*d)/(z+d)

where "d" is my projection factor. I tried to adjust the factor
but i don´t get close to the view in the Lightwave editor.

Many thanks in advance for any solution!


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Hello,

I'm new at LW4.0. When I use a true type font, the a and q's cannot be
looked through. There is a type of "film" over the opening in the
characters.
Is there a work around to solve this problem?
Another question: How can I load Type 1 font which are on the CD-Rom?
I use Win95 and Pentium 150 with 32 Ram.
Your answers will be appreciated.

Regards

André Myny
The Netherlands

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From: 0@0.0 (Steve)
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Subject: Morph point organisation??
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:56:32 GMT
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I'm trying to get used to morphing and have constructed two flat
polygons with the same number of points but different shapes.

Now the first problem is that when it morphs from 1 to 2 it disappears
and then returns. By turning on double-sided surfaces it works but was
is really happening?

I have tried creating an in-between shape 3, and tried morphing from
1-3 then 3-2 with dissolve envelopes set-up. Now the problem is that
instead of morphing smoothly to the nearest point it morphs and then
morphs again.

It seems that Lightwave's morphing works on a point numbering system
rather than nearest point system. Is there a way to re-number the
points??

Cheers

Steve

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From: "Glen Gray" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Bill Gates copied Apple's OS!!! HA!!!!
Date: 24 Nov 1996 12:07:21 GMT
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>If Microsoft wanted to kill the Macintosh, all they have to do is
>stop development of MS-Word and Excel for the Mac,

Unfortunately, if Microsoft don't support the Apples OS, with version of
it's products, at this stage, then the Monopoly comission in the States
would try and eat them for breakfast again.

>> True MS was a partner (I remember [were talk'n '85] a certain "Dating
>> Game" spoof hosted by Steve Jobs & featuring Bill Gates as a
>> "contestant").  However much of the look of Mac software was the design
>> of Apple.  The menus (File & Edit mainly) and window design was provided
>> by the Mac Toolbox (part of the OS).
>>

And if you remember that, then should also remember that the type of GUI we
have all grown to know was developed back in the early days of "micro
computing" by the Xerox research park (I think it was some where like paulo
alto). Mr. Jobs was shown the future paper less office and decided that it
was the way that all computer workstations word work in the future.
Unfortunately for Xerox, they made the mistake of not patenting there new
design and Steve Jobs was able to implement it into the MAC. Sounds familar
to how Microsoft "developed" MS-DOS, no !!!

nkshivan <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> Jean-Eric Hénault wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > I would add to this that Microsoft was probably one of the most
> > innovative company on the Macintosh front. Remember that MS-Word and
> > Excel were probably the most advanced graphically oriented packages
> > availlable on any platform. Microsoft developped an approach and a
> > design philosophy that it was able to refine before launching Windows
> > 3.0.
>
> MacWrite was out before MSWord, and was a better program til word 2.0
> came out.  Excel, on the otherhand, WAS innovative.  Hell, Excel was
> birthed on the Mac, as was FoxPro (or so I've been told)
> >
> > Microsoft was partly responsible for helping establish a software
design
> > standard for interface and the look and feel that is so much part of
the
> > Macintosh today. So no, Bill Gates did not copy Apple. In fact,
> > Microsoft was a big partner, and supporter of the Macintosh and still
 > is. If Microsoft wanted to kill the Macintosh, all they have to do is
>> > stop development of MS-Word and Excel for the Mac, still Mac
> > Best-sellers.
> >
> > Jean-Eric
>
> True MS was a partner (I remember [were talk'n '85] a certain "Dating
> Game" spoof hosted by Steve Jobs & featuring Bill Gates as a
> "contestant").  However much of the look of Mac software was the design
> of Apple.  The menus (File & Edit mainly) and window design was provided
> by the Mac Toolbox (part of the OS).
>

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From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
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Torsten wrote:

> I got problems to save avi files with lightwave 5.0 under WINNT4.0

There's a new version of the NewTek-AVI saver plug-in.

   http://www.access.digex.net/~erniew/getstuff.html

or

   ftp://ftp.digex.net/pub/access/erniew
      intel/ntavi.zip
      alpha/ntavi.zip

or

   ftp://ftp.newtek.com/pub/NewTek/Upgrades
      LightWaveIntel/ntavix86.zip
      LightWaveAlpha/ntaviaxp.zip

- Ernie                              http://www.access.digex.net/~erniew



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Charles LonerSam wrote:

> I found that there is a QV.P for the layout once but it doesn't come out
> with the LW 5 nor the Newtek site.

   http://www.access.digex.net/~erniew/getstuff.html

or

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      alpha/qv.zip

- Ernie                              http://www.access.digex.net/~erniew



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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d video game development
Date: 20 Nov 96 12:36:41 +0500
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On 20-Nov-96 08:41:23, cj ([e-mail]) in
comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, re: <Re: Lightwave & 3d video game
development> said:
>Chuck Baker wrote:

>>
>> Sony now has a developer package based around Lightwave.  They are
>> currently offering these in Japan, but will be offering them world-wide
>> within a few months.
>>


>Williams/Bally/Midway games also uses LW for game development, in fact
>two very BIG games have used LW and will be using LW for 2 BIG upcoming
>games.

>With that said, I need to ask you Chuck why we can never seem to get
>ahold of Keith to help us with some support.  He called us and promised
>us a shitload of things we needed and said he'd send it out ASAP.  That
>was a week ago and so far nothing.  We really need Keith to get back to
>us quickly.

>thanx

>Josh

Keith's at Comdex right now.  I'll email for further followup.


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From: Glenn Chung <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Fonts with holes
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 09:19:25 -0600
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To: André Myny <[e-mail]>

André Myny wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm new at LW4.0. When I use a true type font, the a and q's cannot be
> looked through. There is a type of "film" over the opening in the
> characters.
> Is there a work around to solve this problem?
> Another question: How can I load Type 1 font which are on the CD-Rom?
> I use Win95 and Pentium 150 with 32 Ram.
> Your answers will be appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> André Myny
> The Netherlands

Early versions of LW 4.0 had a problem using TrueType fonts. You need to
download and install the latest 4.0 patch from the Newtek ftp site
(ftp://ftp.newtek.com) or their web site (http://www.newtek.com).

The Type 1 fonts that ship with LW 4.0 should have loaded automatically
when you installed the software. Look in the PSFonts directory under the
Newtek directory.

Glenn
Visuality LLC

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Hi everybody.

I would like to know ,is there a perfect export import utilities,
for bringing 3ds objects from 3d Studio to Lw5, INCLUDING textures.

Thx

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From: [e-mail] (Gordon Tomlinson)
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Subject: Re: Bill Gates copied Apple's OS!!! HA!!!!
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On 22 Nov 1996 20:55:02 -0700, you wrote:
>In article <5756bu$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (er) writes:
>
>>Well, We should all check our history lessons, I believe Steve Jobs
>>"copied" the  GUI concept that was developed in the early "70's" by
>>Xerox,(they also invented some thing back then now called "e-mail".
>>Jobs was the first to expliot GUI's, but as recent years have shown
>>Mr. Bill was better at marketing his systems, and thats why I'm
>>writing this on a PC instead of a MAC. Amigas and Macs were cool for
>>there day, but can you multitask on either yet ?  no.
>
>Please re-read your history books.  The Amiga OS is an excellent multi-tasker.
> Has been for some time.
>

I think the point being made is that every one slags off Gates and MS
products, and Praises the Macs etc but as pointed out Xerox were the
first with a Gui and Email and the automated office, eg, Lost notes
etc...

On the subject of Gates, I think most people are just plain envious,
but lets face it, He was there at the right time, had the Brians and
the GUTS to go for it, alot of people have been there at the time of a
chance of some kind,  but have either not had the brains or more
likely the balls to go for it.

And while your at it remember MS supplied a lot of code to Apple, IBM
etc and are still the biggest supplier of Softwares to Macs and PC's

whether you like Gates personaaly should not come into it, if it was
not Gates it would have been Big Blue, but boy did they slip up. And
on the subject no one comes dirtier than big blue, read there history,
it makes MS look like snow white.


TTFN



Gordon Tomlinson

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From: [e-mail] (Moshe Zafrany - TNG)
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Have a look at the followin URL:

http://www.worley.com/

-- Moshe Zafrany
TNG Israel


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Date: 24 Nov 1996 09:33:26 GMT
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Does anyone have a render to GIF plug-in?  I've been rendering
to JPEG and then converting to GIF, but that's a pain.


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From: [e-mail]
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
writes:

>    Ok, here's one MANY people forget:
>
>    After moving and setting the lights, did you set a keyframe
>for each?  Then did you save the scene?
>    I know it sounds simple but I've done this one many times.
>    As for OpenGL you have to specify the # of lights in the scene
>to be using GL.  It doesn't matter if you have it set on with 10
>lights in the scene if you only have it set for 1 to be GL'ed.
>    Hope this helps
>
>Bob

  Also remember that only the first 8 lights will be used for OpenGL.

David Carlson
CONTINUUM
3D graphics and animation

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Experienced Animator's Employers Moving
Date: 24 Nov 1996 17:30:44 GMT
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I have been working for a video production/3D animation company for the
past 3.5 years and find my employers are moving away.  Although I am
willing to relocate, I will not be joining them in their new locale.

If you are a video production or animation firm seeking an experience
animator with strong technical skills, video editing abilities, and more,
please visit my web site at:

http://users.aol.com/RandyJaxon

You will find a couple stills of my work as well as a link to my resume.

Thanks for the interest!

Randy Jackson


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From: 0@0.0 (Steve)
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Subject: Re: Render to GIF
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On 24 Nov 1996 09:33:26 GMT, [e-mail] (Highlander)
wrote:

>Does anyone have a render to GIF plug-in?  I've been rendering
>to JPEG and then converting to GIF, but that's a pain.
>
What would be really handy is one that let's you select a palette to
dither down to and transparency support for GIF89a

Steve

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There's a new imaging program for Win95 that's perfect for creating gif
animations created with lightwave! I got it from
http://members.aol.com/MV4Win

- ss

P.S. Here's the "official" scoop...

MagicViewer is a handy image tool that lets you view, manipulate and print
your
graphics files. The main features are:

    1.    Read and write 6 popular file types including BMP/DIB,
GIF, Progressive JPEG,
        TIFF, PCX and Macintosh PICT files.
    2.    Import sequence of files to construct GIF animation.
    3.    Play GIF animation files that you create or download from
the Internet.
    4.    Use the Magic Wand and rectangular selection tool to
select and crop
        the image to create transparent background that can be
used in your web page.
    5.    Batch conversion lets you convert your graphics files
between all supported formats.
    6.    Create Windows Shell Icon when saving GIF and JPEG files
so you can see the thumbnail
        version of the image on your Windows desktop.
    7.    Color conversion between 1, 4, 8, 24 bit color and gray
level images.
    8.    Print preview and print images.
    9.    Resize and resample using 4 different filters.

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Render to GIF
Date: 24 Nov 1996 19:08:57 GMT
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Check out MagicViewer at http://members.aol.com/MV4Win. You can batch
convert your JPEG files to a single GIF animation.

- ss

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From: jake <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Animating Metanurbs
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:19:04 +0000
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> stands. It looks like our whole meatmation thing just might be
> superseded

Not being catty about spelling, I just think meatmation would be a
fantastic plug-in...

Jake

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From: "Nigel Critten" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Power Texture
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:03:00 GMT
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Has anyone tell me where I can find info on the Power Texture plugin for
LW5, I can't get it to load any images in?

TIA

Nigel
www.gameware.demon.co.uk

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From: jake <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Batch converting on the PC?
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> >>Geoff Suttor wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ROMERO wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Try using DeBabelizer.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> For the PC? I don't think so.
> >>> If it is then PLEASE let us all know. :)

Just released for NT as of September...much better interface than the
Mac v
currently, but soon to be unified...supports mutilple image loads (I
don't mean
batch processing, but many single frames open at one; currently limited
to 1
on the Mac v) looking forward to using rather than seeing it.

Jake

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From: [e-mail] (Creative Visions)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW Pics to 35mm Negative/Slide $15each!!
Date: 24 Nov 1996 17:19:27 GMT
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Walter (Jay) Turberville ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <577qo6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael Austin) writes:
: >From: [e-mail] (Michael Austin)
: >Subject: Re: LW Pics to 35mm Negative/Slide $15each!!
: >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:38:18 GMT

: >[e-mail] (Creative Visions) wrote:


: >       This service is available with 4000 line resolution
: >      everywhere for 5.00 bucks each.

Well Jay,

I'd sure like to know where this can be done for $5.00 each.. Because
that's HALF of COST!! Hey, I didn't post this to get lambasted, I'm
really not even making any money to speak of, just enough to cover
shipping and materials. If you can personally find somewhere else to get
this done for a better price, then by all means do it. I have gotten
incredible results with this, and felt like sharing with the rest of the
class.. Nothing more.

Hope this clears things up.

Marc
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Gordon Keenan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Stale?
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:29:38 GMT
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With all the talk about new versions of LightWave am I the only one
who thinks NewTek are starting to become stale once again?

Where is the information to keep people interested in LightWave?
Why bother having a Web Page that never seems to be updated?
Why no teaser plugins or upgrades to keep people happy?

When you compare the way Kinetix is marketing 3DS MAX it starts to
show that the current people at NewTek really don't seem to be focused
enough to get their product taken up by the masses.

Have you seen the support for MAX?

Have you seen the range of plugins for MAX?

Have you seen the MAX Web site?

Now that DPS in the United Kingdom are no longer distributing
LightWave, I have this real bad feeling that things are going to start
getting worse for the end users...........

Gordon Keenan
24Bit Club/FX24 Productions


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From: [e-mail] (Gordon Keenan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NEWTEK BORING
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:29:39 GMT
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When you invest so much time and money into a closed system that
suddenly vanishes, it takes time to readjust and decide when things
have to come to an end.

If NewTek would realise that the European market is the only thing
that can bring them in fresh money, and Toasters are not going to be
their consistant earner then maybe they can start to become a company
that people want to deal with.

On Wed, 06 Nov 1996 18:38:39 -0500, Zoltan Hunt
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>THE HUNTED wrote:
>>
>> i wish newtek would just give up on the toaster and just put all it's
>> time and enery into lightwave because i'm sure lightwave is what keeps
>> that company afloat,i mean just imagine how great lightwave could have
>> been
>> by now,and come on let's face it the amiga's dead,although i still
>> love those machines,till then it's me and my 3d max and my lw.5.0
>> sits on the bookcase till it can wow me agian
>
>How about the PowerPC version?  I mean there is a new board out this
>spring that runs a '040 or '060 in parallel with a PowerPC chip, I'd
>sure like to see at least ScreamerNet running on this one (would be at
>least as fast an a P133) :)


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From: [e-mail] (Mark E. Kern)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Wanted: Fulltime Animator (Boston)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:30:04 GMT
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Job Opportunities:

At Qualia, we offer competitive salaries and full benefit packages.
But more than this, we offer a real chance to make a difference in the
field of computer entertainment. Qualia is dedicated to pushing the
standards of production values, technology and especially gameplay. We
seek those who share our high standards of quality and fun, and who
enjoy taking on significant responsibilities and meeting new
challenges in a startup environment.


APPLICANTS:

E-mail ([e-mail]) is the preferred method of sending us
your resume or static illustrations. We accept MIME encoded files in
most formats, with JPEGS preferred due to size limitations. Animations
or demo reels  should be sent on VHS or SVHS, and will be returned if
requested. Please state which position(s) you wish to be considered
for in your cover letter.

No positions other than the one listed is available at this time.
Please allow 1-2 weeks for a response.


Senior 3D Animator - Character Animation

Core Requirements:

· Knowledge of traditional animation techniques
· Knowledge of storyboarding, editing, and film techniques
· A keen eye and a great "sense of motion."
· Fluent in 3DS Max, Lightwave or other significant animation software
· Passion for videogames
· Demo reel with significant character animation

Qualia seeks a confident animator to lead its 3D animation team. We
are looking for someone who enjoys telling stories through characters
and motion.



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From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: A perfect imort\export
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:09:32 -0500
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alon wrote:
>
> Hi everybody.
>
> I would like to know ,is there a perfect export import utilities,
> for bringing 3ds objects from 3d Studio to Lw5, INCLUDING textures.
>
> Thx

Apparently, the best converter in the business is still the ones from
Syndesis, Interchange. It can import and export to and from dozens of 3D
formats, including Lightwave, SoftImage, 3DS, Alias, Electric Image, you
just name it. I think that a module for 3D max is about to or is already
shipping.

Visit this address :

http://www.dbline.it/shtm/interc.htm

Jean-Eric

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From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
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Apparently, LightWave 5.0 has z-buffer problems when using Windows NT
4.0. This can be as severe as having an object standing behind an other
being rendered in front...

Rather embarassing. Has anyone been able to confirm this bug ? I am
wondering if I should upgrade my Windows NT 3.51 to 4.0...

Thanks!

Jean-Eric

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***********************************************************************
This works, I did it and have already received $575.00 in the past
1-1/2 weeks.
************************************************************************
Hello!
I've got some awesome news that I think you need to take two
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like 'desperate stupid people who will try anything for money!').
Well,  when I was a teenager,  these claims to 'get me rich quick'
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   I was scanning thru a NEWSGROUP and saw an article stating to
GET CASH FAST!!  I thought..."Here on the Internet??  Well, I'll just
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AND MAKE $50, 0000 IN CASH WITHIN 4 WEEKS!  Well, the more I thought
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   Ok, so the $50,000 in cash was maybe a tough amount to reach, but
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of the five people on the list that was contained in the article.  I
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listed and moved everyone up one position, and I put my name in
position five of the list.  This is how the money starts rolling in!
I then took this revised article now with my name on the list and
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MESSAGE AREAS THAT I KNEW.  I then waited to watch the money come
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But what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!!  I
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   I now have a brand new black Acura Integra to speak for, due to
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   Let's review the reasons why you should do this:  The only cost
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ADDED) to all the newsgroups and local BBS's you can.  Then sit back
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   So how do you do it exactly, you ask?  I have carefully provided
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*** THE LIST OF NAMES IS AT THE END OF THIS ARTICLE. ***

OK,  Read this carefully.  Get a printout of this information, if you
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INSTRUCTIONS:

1.  Take a sheet of paper and write on it the following:
"Please add my name to your list".  This creates a service out of this
money making system and thus making it completely legal. You are not
just randomly sending a dollar to someone, you are paying one dollar
for a legitimate service.  Make sure  you include your name and
address.  I assure you that,  again,  this is completely legal!  For a
neat little twist, also write what slot their name was in: "You were
in slot 3",  Just to add a little fun!  This is all about having fun
and making money at the same time!

2.  Now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill ,(no checks or
money orders), and put them into an envelope and send it on its way to
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3.  Now listen carefully, here's where you get YOUR MONEY COMING TO
YOUR MAILBOX.   Look at the list of five people;  remove the first
name from position one and move everyone on the list up slot one on
the list.  Position 2 name will now move to the position 1 slot ,
position 3 will now become position 2, 4 will be be 3, 5 wil be 4.
Now put your name, address, zipcode AND COUNTRY in position 5, the
bottom position on the list.

4.  Now upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and local
bulletin boards' message areas & file section as possible.  Give a
catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!!  Such as:
"NEED FAST CASH?, HERE IT IS!" or "NEED CASH TO PAY OFF
YOUR DEBTS??",  etc.  And the more uploads, the more money you will
make, and of course, the more money the others on the list will make
too.  LET'S ALL TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER BY BEING HONEST AND BY PUTTING
FORTH 120 PERCENT INTO THIS PROFITABLE & AMAZING SYSTEM!!! You'll reap
the benefits, believe me!!! Set a goal for the number of total uploads
you'll post, such as 15-20 postings or more!  Always have a goal in
mind!!! If you can UUE encode the file when uploading,  that will make
it easier for the people to receive it and have it downloaded to their
hard drive.  That way they get a copy of the article right on their
computer without hassles of viewing and then saving the article from
the File menu. Don't alter the file type, leave it as an MS-DOS Text
file. The best test is to be able to view this file using Microsoft's
Notepad for Windows 3.x or WordPad for Windows '95. If the margins
look right without making the screen slide left or right when at the
ends of the sentences, you're in business!

5.  If you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the BBS, or
"POST" a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a file, tell them
who your Internet provider is and PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS BE GLAD TO HELP.
I would try to describe how to do it but there are simply too many
internet software packages with slightly different yet relatively
simple ways to post or upload a file.  Just ask for help or look in
the help section for 'posting'. I do know that for GNN, you simply
select 'POST' then enter a catchy description under the subject box,
choose 'ATTACH', selecting 'UUE' and NOT 'TXT', then choose 'Browse'
to go look for the file. Find your text file CASH.TXT and click on it
and choose 'OK'.  Place a one line statement in the main body section
of the message post screen. Something like "Download this to read how
to get cash arriving in your mailbox with no paybacks!" or whatever.
Just make sure it represents its true feasibility, NOT something
like..."Get one million dollars flooding in your mailbox in two days!"

You'll never get ANY responses!

6.  And this is the step I like.  JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY LIFE BECAUSE
CASH IS ON THE WAY!!  Expect to see a little money start to
trickle in around 2 weeks, but AT ABOUT WEEKS 3 & 4, THE MONEY STORM
WILL HIT YOUR MAILBOX!! All you have to do is take it out of the
mailbox and try not to scream too loud (outside anyway) when you
realize YOU HIT THE BIG TIME AT LAST!!

7.  So go PAY OFF YOUR BILLS AND DEBTS and then get that something
special you always wanted or buy that special person in your life (or
the one you want in your life)  a gift they'll never forget.  ENJOY
LIFE!

8.  Now when you get low on this money supply,  simply re-activate
this file again; Reposting it in the old places where you originally
posted and possibly some new places you now know of. Don't ever lose
this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you ever need
cash.  THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TOOL THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS RE-USE TIME AND
TIME AGAIN WHEN CASH IS NEEDED!

9.  (This step added by Charles Reiley).  Hello, This is exciting,
isn't it?! While I'm on the list, just add a note saying "Please
include extra money tips" with your name & E-MAIL address, and I will
(FOR FREE) send you some neat methods to increase the money you will
receive with this plan. Why?... Why not? I'm not a selfish jerk...I
like helping out others. E-mail just makes it a touch easier and
cheaper, too!  After I drop off the list, I can no longer offer you
this advice, obviously, but maybe someone else who gets my tips will
offer and simply replace my name on this step number 9. Good luck and
give this plan your all, it will definitely pay off! Like Mike said,
HAVE FUN WITH IT!!!

10. (This comment added by Mike Lorincz) Hell dude, this is great,
just
send the money and wait like 1 week, then all of a sudden, BOOOOOOM!
Mail flood full of dollar bills. Hahahah its great

11. (This comment added by David Marvasti) The first few days your
like
darn
where's my cash?  Then all of a sudden...  I think I'm going to cry!

12. (This comment added by John Smith) PLEASE SEND US DOLLAR!!!

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Subject: TIM - TIME TO SPEAK
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:29:48 GMT
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Maybe it's time for the head of NewTek to release a message to the
masses and let us all know what he intends to do to get NewTek from
the back of the pack and start leading once again?

Consider that Gary Yost (Autodesk/3D MAX) is an active participant in
the 3D mailing lists, maybe that should tell you something about his
idea on marketing and support.

Listen to what the people want, supply, and make money!


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Subject: Re: A/BOX computer - The Amiga Lives
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When support for a dead platform delays advancement of a product it's
time to cut the cord..........


On 18 Nov 1996 23:23:04 -0700, Glenn Saunders <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>The mortal BobaFett wrote:
>: You be there. Even if Lightwave 5.0 comes out, PC users will be running
>: 6., & you will be running a computer that is obsolite 6 years ago!!!
>
>Maybe you'll learn to spell by then.
>


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From: [e-mail] (Gordon Keenan)
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Subject: Re: What's the latest dongle policy?
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Buy some Rosary Beads and start praying...........

(With toungue in cheek)
Has anyone wondered why Tim Jennison never appears on here?
Have you watched  "DARK STAR"..... Who does the guy in the freeze
chamber remind me of.......


On Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:15:09 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>I have LW 4.0. I want to upgrade to LW 5.0.
>I havent used LW in a while and I think my dongle
>does not work. So what is the latest dongle policy.
>
>Thanks
>Alan
>


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From: [e-mail] (Thilo Rohrhirsch)
Subject: Problems in Layout module of Lightwave 3D 5.0 (Intel)
Date: 25 Nov 96 01:35:06 -0800
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Hi everybody,

I've found this Lightwave newsgroup address in the Lightwave user
manual. As nobody from the NewTek staff replies to my faxes and mails
I ask you if you might be able to help me.

Whenever I want to load a bigger scene file (for example "blade")
into the layout module of Lightwave 3D 5.0, I only see an empty
camera view. As soon as I want to generate a preview or render the
scene the computer crashes or doesn't react anymore. This happens in
WindowsNT 3.51 as well as in Windows 95. The same scene files worked
properly in Lightwave 3D 4.0. So the problems shouldn't be caused by
my hard- or software configuration. Apart from that I also tried it
on another computer with completely different hardware, but I got the
same problems. If these problems are already known and there are
already an upgrade or patch files available in which these problems
are solved, please let me know how I can get them (name of file(s)
and internet address of the server providing these files).

John Gross (editor of LWPro) told me that the problems could be
caused by the OpenGL options. Therefore I turned them off - but the
problems remained.

Most of the scene files are not loadable. Funny is that for example
mech.lws is loadable, but mechwalk.lws is not.

The problems also occur if I try to load the scene files directly
from the CD-ROM.


Thilo


P.S.: Does Lightwave 3D 5.0 also work with WindowsNT 4.0?

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From: nkshivan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Bill Gates copied Apple's OS!!! HA!!!!
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Glen Gray wrote:
>
.
>
> >> True MS was a partner (I remember [were talk'n '85] a certain "Dating
> >> Game" spoof hosted by Steve Jobs & featuring Bill Gates as a
> >> "contestant").  However much of the look of Mac software was the design
> >> of Apple.  The menus (File & Edit mainly) and window design was provided
> >> by the Mac Toolbox (part of the OS).
> >>
>
> And if you remember that, then should also remember that the type of GUI we
> have all grown to know was developed back in the early days of "micro
> computing" by the Xerox research park (I think it was some where like paulo
> alto). Mr. Jobs was shown the future paper less office and decided that it
> was the way that all computer workstations word work in the future.
> Unfortunately for Xerox, they made the mistake of not patenting there new
> design and Steve Jobs was able to implement it into the MAC. Sounds familar
> to how Microsoft "developed" MS-DOS, no !!!
>

Xerox abandoned the project (bright move)... Jobs actually hired some of
the PARC engineer's (one of whom just recently left Apple).  But what I
want to know is... what ever happened to the guy at Xerox who axed the
project?

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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In article <57a02v$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Creative Visions) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Creative Visions)
>Subject: Re: LW Pics to 35mm Negative/Slide $15each!!
>Date: 24 Nov 1996 17:19:27 GMT

>Walter (Jay) Turberville ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: In article <577qo6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael
>Austin) writes:
>: >From: [e-mail] (Michael Austin)
>: >Subject: Re: LW Pics to 35mm Negative/Slide $15each!!
>: >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:38:18 GMT

>: >[e-mail] (Creative Visions) wrote:


>: >       This service is available with 4000 line resolution
>: >      everywhere for 5.00 bucks each.

>Well Jay,

>I'd sure like to know where this can be done for $5.00 each.. Because
>that's HALF of COST!! Hey, I didn't post this to get lambasted, I'm
>really not even making any money to speak of, just enough to cover
>shipping and materials. If you can personally find somewhere else to get
>this done for a better price, then by all means do it. I have gotten
>incredible results with this, and felt like sharing with the rest of the
>class.. Nothing more.

>Hope this clears things up.

>Marc
>[e-mail]

First of all, the above is not a quote from me.  Second, I didn't lambast you.
 I simply confirmed someone's else take on the price and added comment to the
effect that 752x480 really isn't going to going to hold up that well.

In the Phoenix area Mouse Graphics offers this service.  I think it costs
around $6.50 per slide and they use a 4000 line monochrome monitor that
exposes the slide in three passes (one each for RGB.)  I haven't seen the
results you get, but I cannot imagine them to be better than using a high
resolution image with the above type of imaging system.

My intention wasn't to ridicule or otherwise upset you.  I just felt that your
offering was overpriced based on my experience and that your take on what is
an acceptable result is very much open to question and interpretation.
Perhaps it is a good price for someone in a smaller metro area with fewer
options.  That, of course, is for that person to decide.

Sorry for any hard feelings.  That was not my intention.


Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
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I was doing 3d graphics and animation on my
Etch-a-sketch when i was 3. Then they invented transistors.
I now use huge computers.
--
Marcel Chartrand
MACH DESIGN (R&D) INC.
Montreal, Canada.
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Morph point organisation??
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In article <[e-mail]> 0@0.0 (Steve) writes:
>From: 0@0.0 (Steve)
>Subject: Morph point organisation??
>Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:56:32 GMT

>I'm trying to get used to morphing and have constructed two flat
>polygons with the same number of points but different shapes.

>Now the first problem is that when it morphs from 1 to 2 it disappears
>and then returns. By turning on double-sided surfaces it works but was
>is really happening?

>I have tried creating an in-between shape 3, and tried morphing from
>1-3 then 3-2 with dissolve envelopes set-up. Now the problem is that
>instead of morphing smoothly to the nearest point it morphs and then
>morphs again.

>It seems that Lightwave's morphing works on a point numbering system
>rather than nearest point system. Is there a way to re-number the
>points??

>Cheers

>Steve

Generally speaking, it is better to create your morph target directly from
your morph sort.  You are correct that point order is important.  In fact,
that is what morph does.  It "tweens" the point locations.  My guess is that
your morph actually ends up "turning around" your object so that the polygons'
surface normals end up facing the wrong direction.  I know of no way to easily
renumber the points.


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: A perfect imort\export
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In article <[e-mail]> Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: A perfect imort\export
>Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:09:32 -0500

>alon wrote:
>>
>> Hi everybody.
>>
>> I would like to know ,is there a perfect export import utilities,
>> for bringing 3ds objects from 3d Studio to Lw5, INCLUDING textures.
>>
>> Thx

>Apparently, the best converter in the business is still the ones from
>Syndesis, Interchange. It can import and export to and from dozens of 3D
>formats, including Lightwave, SoftImage, 3DS, Alias, Electric Image, you
>just name it. I think that a module for 3D max is about to or is already
>shipping.

>Visit this address :

>http://www.dbline.it/shtm/interc.htm

>Jean-Eric

Due to the differences in procedural textures and probably in how image
mapping is done and supported, it is  simply not practical to include
the textures in the import process.  All you get is geometry and surface
differentiation.


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel J. McCoy)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NT 4.0 & LW 5.0 bug
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In article <[e-mail]>, Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Apparently, LightWave 5.0 has z-buffer problems when using Windows NT
>4.0. This can be as severe as having an object standing behind an other
>being rendered in front...
>
>Rather embarassing. Has anyone been able to confirm this bug ? I am
>wondering if I should upgrade my Windows NT 3.51 to 4.0...

It's been confirmed and a rather heated topic on the LW mailing list as of
late.  Apparently, after NewTek has finally shipped the Amiga and PowerMac
versions of LW 5.0, Intel and Alpha users will see a patch that solves this
bug, the 1000 surface limit bug in pre LW 5.0c (Layout rev M), more levels of
displacement mapping plugins, and a few other issues.  They say the PowerMac
and Amiga versions are at the test phase of the install CDs so it is in high
hopes we'll see a patch soon!

Dan

--
Daniel J. McCoy - [e-mail] or [e-mail]
WWW - http://www.pacificnet.net/~djmccoy

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From: 0@0.0 (Steve)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Difference btwn Movie quality and Broadcast Quality
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On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:43:01 -0500, Gregory Seid <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> I just can't figure it out!
>>
>> If you watch a movie on TV or at a theater,  and later watch the TV news
>> for example, there really is a major difference in btwn them.
>>
>> Can anyone educate me over here?
>
>I sure hope so.  :)  Within the US, TV can only output about 400 lines of
>vertical resolution (I say "about" because some TVs tend to cut off the
>top and bottom few lines).  I don't know about horizontal resoultion, but
>overall I think it's 600x400 (HxV).  Film, on the other hand...I often
>see images (eg, digital mattes for Jurassic Park and ID4) rendered at
>4000x3000, or whatever ratio is required (2.35:1, 16:9, etc.), but the
>scale is always in the thousands of pixels.  You have to admit, on a
>screen that large, you want a higher resolution image ot avoid the
>pixellation/blockiness.
>
>> (The difference I can think of is as follows:
>> movies - 24fps, scens captured on film.
>> Broadcast - 30 fps, contains 60 fields, scenes captured on video camera.)
>
>That's true also, but don't forget IMAX...which I have.  I think it's around
>45fps.  Someone will correct me soon enough.
>
>-----
>Gregory Seid
>[e-mail]
>http://www.lehigh.edu/~gms2/

And because a film is projected you get lower contrast than video, a
higher brightness, less saturated colours and more motion blur because
of the fps being lower.

Steve

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From: Tom Kubat <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Lights "exclude" plugin?
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:44:20 -0800
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Hakki Alacakaptan wrote:
>
> "Dan Ablan" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Hakki Alacakaptan <[e-mail]> wrote in article
> ><56v6jq$[e-mail]>...
> >> Defectors from 3DStudio like myself might have noticed, alongside a
> >> huge sense of relief, that there's no "exclude" button on the lights
> >> panel - i.e. no easy way to get a light to hit only non-excluded
> >> objects. Has anyone thought of creating a plugin to fill this void, or
> >> is this just not an option for a raytracer?
>
> >               Have you tried using the No Diffuse
> >               or No Specular settings?
> >
> >               Just a thought.
>
> >               Dan
> I'm talking about a particular light not hitting a particular object
> although that object is within the light's cone and range. If this
> feature existed you could light an object with a raytrace spot without
> getting shadows on excluded objects. Good way to get some extra
> highlights on a bump- and transparency-mapped object without throwing
> shadows all over the place. Invaluable for faking radiosity.
>
>

Have you tried Prem's Surface Effectors yet?  It should be possible to
use that to dynamically adjust the object's sensitivity to the light in
question.  A cludgy fix but, combined with some clever light falloff
settings should be able to produce the effect you need.

Tom Kubat
VIP, Inc.

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From: "Grant Boucher" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Heads Up! Will Vinton Studios on Oprah!
Date: 25 Nov 1996 07:31:54 GMT
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you might have seen a LightWave generated commercial on that Oprah show as
well :}

--
Grant Boucher
[e-mail]


[e-mail] wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> The Oprah! show scheduled for 4:00pm Monday in Portland OR on Ch.8.(of
> course different times/dates in your area) is titled something like "How
> They Did That."
> The show is to feature the work involved making the Nissan ad with the
> dolls driving a toy 300ZX. (million dollar commercial, totally cool,
seems
> to be selling cars.) And other special effects.
>
> Get out the TV Guide and the instructions for the VCR..
>
> Hope it's neat...
>
> Gary Grossoehme
>
>
> Gary Grossoehme, Oregon Electronics, 503-239-5293
> [e-mail]
>
> "I'm a hologram, dammit, not a Doctor!"
>

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From: "Grant Boucher" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: New SGI O2 - here we go again
Date: 25 Nov 1996 07:44:38 GMT
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David Nouls <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
>
> First, it's UMA is great. This let's me do things that even our Onyx
> with REII has problems with.

yeah, like booting...or propping up my feet :}

>
> We can use our development software and tools we created on this machine
> without problems.

whew!  that's a relief!

>
> The toolkits from SGI (like Performer) use the extra features of the SGI
> accelerators so we don't really need to write O2 specific code since we
> don't have to go this low level.
>

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

> Most importantly, up till now we needed to use the a highend system like
> the Onyx with RE. With the O2 we have a capable machine that we can use
> to develop. I even can take an O2 home for further work. That's the gap
> that SGI wanted to close since the Indy and even the Indigo machines
> couldn't give us these options.
>

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

> Perhaps if all the toolkits were converted to NT we might consider other
> options. But then there are all the tools we developed for Irix. It
> would cost too much time and money.
>

one day you may have to..might pay to start now...  :}

--
Grant Boucher
[e-mail]



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From: "Grant Boucher" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave "shading language" possable?
Date: 25 Nov 1996 07:36:42 GMT
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It's called C++ and it is a more MODERN way of adding shading and rendering
functionality, which suffers none of the limitations of the ancient Rman
Shader language.  :}
--
Grant Boucher
[e-mail]


[e-mail] wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
> Maybe it's just bias by the renderman guys, but i hear constantly that
> one of the big keys to having CG be totaly realistic is to have some
> kind of programmable shading language ala renderman.
>
>   Does anybody know if this is possible in the future?  I hate
> programming, but if that's what it takes to really wow people and get
> good clients, whatever.  LW has some algorithmic "shaders" but they are
> pretty simplistic, albeit versatile.  Is there any way future LW
> versions could allow one to quickly create new and unique custom
> shaders?
>
>   And another thing, supposidly nowdays with all that digital
> compositing and new film stocks, you NEED 10, 12, heck maybe 16 bits per
> color channel now.  Will LW have the means in the near future for color
> depth bigger than 8 bit?
>

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From: "Grant Boucher" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave "shading language" possable?
Date: 25 Nov 1996 07:34:54 GMT
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In fact, all you need is to add Open Inventor support to LightWave, as most
Inventro apps dump Rman RIB files...
--
Grant Boucher
[e-mail]


John Warren <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >   I read somewhere about 3DSMax having a plugin that outputs scenes to
> > RIB format.  That might be good for LW.  But PIXAR really really
doesn't
> > want renderman to be used on PCs or any windows based operating system,
> > so it's probably really difficult to make LW any kind of renerman
> > compatability.
>
> Renderman is 2 things:
>
>     * An actual rendering program named "Photorealistic Renderman"
>     * A specification for 3D Scenes Descriptions (where to place
>       lights, use of fog, object descriptions, transformations,
>       etc. -- it's up to the renderer to support this format, or
>       the 3D modeler/layout package to read/write this format)
>
> Obviously, the program Photorealistic Renderman is commercial software
> and will only exist on platforms that Pixar likes (or is willing to
> support). This doesn't preclude, however, *anyone* from writing their
> own renderer or plug-ins to support the Renderman Specification (which
> is very openly available from Pixar). In fact, the Renderman
> Specification
> was originally intended to be the "postscript" of 3D (so that 3D
> programs
> could talk to each other via the RIB format).
>
> Hence, it isn't "really difficult to make LW any kind of renerman[sic]
> compatibility". Rather, it would be very easy to do if someone wanted
> to do it (or had the time).
>
> -John Warren
>  The Advanced Computing Center for the Arts & Design
>  [e-mail]
>

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From: "Grant Boucher" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Renderman is dead...
Date: 25 Nov 1996 07:26:51 GMT
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Let's start a new thread war...I can't wait for Renderman to croak.  IMHO
it's an ancient, scripted, limited capability, antique, raycasting,
over-rated, shadow-mapping, piece-of-crap.  Time to join the 90's!  :}

--
Grant Boucher
[e-mail]


Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]> wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
> I am curious, does this mean that Renderman will be supported again on
> the Mac and the PC?
>
> Jeff
>

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http://www.worley.com/

'nuff said...

--
Grant "hyping my bud" Boucher
Digital Effects Supervisor
Digital Domain
[e-mail]


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From: "Grant Boucher" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Titanic (mini series) LW
Date: 25 Nov 1996 07:57:46 GMT
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I just wanted to congratulate all the guys on their great work and make
sure people understand that the TV mini-series done by Digital Muse is NOT
the James Cameron feature being done by Digital Domain.  I got calls and
email congratulating us for work done by others (must be a LightWave
first!).  Again, we are working on the feature due Summer 97, not the
mini-series.

Again, congrats!

--
Grant Boucher
[e-mail]


John Gross <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> Hello everyone,
>
> Just wanted to let you know that the Titanic mini series on CBS (first
> half on Sunday nite, 2nd half on Tuesday the 19th) uses LW generated
> effects for all of its effects.
>
> The Titanic, water, smoke, wakes and people on board in all of the moving

> and sinking shots are all generated in LightWave.
>
> The Digital Muse team that created the models and shots consists of:
>
> John Parenteau (Digital Effects Supervisor)
> Bruce Branit (Supervising Animator)
> Bob Peppler (Supervising Modeler and Titanic freak)
> David Lombardi (Animator)
> Ka Yaw Tan (Modeler)
> Larry Bowman (Modeler)
>
> John Gross
> Digital Muse
>

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From: "Grant Boucher" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: SGI? With today's market? was:O2, How Much?
Date: 25 Nov 1996 07:51:46 GMT
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Gregg Lukomski <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
>
>    You still need a talent to 'stay' in business and make a client
> happy, but the SGI logo sure isn't hurting *my* prospects...>
> --
> Gregg Lukomski
> Orlando, Florida
> [e-mail]
>

Except that you are still working out of Orlando, homey!  :}
--
Grant Boucher
[e-mail]



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Subject: The MAULE Machine is starting
Date: 24 Nov 1996 23:46:54 GMT
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http://www.italia.com/eurocom/maule

The MAULE Machine  1.0

Hints
=====

The MAULE Machine is a new concept of calculator: it is a

- multidisplay
- programmable
- multiplatform
- extensible
- distributed
- fully free

internet tool. You can use it as a trivial calculator or as powerfull computer.
The MAULE Machine is based on JavaScript.

Trivial Use
===========

You can type an expression on the input display such as:

(2+2*5)/4

or

Math.sin(3.14)

then, pressing 'Compute' you will get the answer.

Virtual Displays
================

You can use 'Add' to create a new input or output display. When you press the
button, all the rows written in the current input display will be evalueated,
and the result will be inserted in the current output display.
'First', 'Previous', 'Next' and 'Last' Buttons are used to navigate into the
display list. 'Remove' is used to destroy a display.

Advanced Use
============

You can use the powerfull of JavaScript for writing programs, using variables,
functions, objects and methods.
For example you can write:

n = 4
m = 1
i=1
for (i=1; i<=n; i++) {
    m *= i}</I>

For more information about JavaScript you can consult the Netscape site
(www.netscape.com).

You can also use

OutWriteLn('string',displayNumber)
OutWrite('string',displayNumber)
InWriteLn('string',displayNumber)
InWrite('string',displayNumber)

to insert text in a specified input or output display. If you don't specify a
display number the string will appear in the current display.

Extensions
==========

The power of the MAULE Machine is based on the concept that everyone can
develope new functions and tool, such as mathematical, phisics, chemical, etc.
This plug-in will be developed and resident on other servers and the user will
download it at run-time.

The C-Tools is an example of a plug-in for complex numbers!!!

Copyrights
==========

The MAULE Machine was created by Mauro Lenzi. All copyrights are reserved.
The copyrigths of each plugs-in will be of the corresponding author.


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From: bforce <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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.AVI sequence loader (AVILOAD) is now available.

This is a Windows'95/NT ONLY Version that supports long filenames.

For the plugin, or more information on how to use .AVI's as images in
Lightwave...

www.en.com/users/bforce

D. Flahaut
BurntPixels

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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: HE is coming...to a theatre near us?
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:44:19 +0000
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Grant Boucher wrote:
>
> http://www.worley.com/
>
> 'nuff said...Grant "hyping my bud" Boucher
>Digital Effects Supervisor
>Digital Domain
>[e-mail]

COOL teaser..but is that the count down to release date...or just count
down till he tells us what it does? Hmm Guess we'll all have to wait and
see :)

----------
Adam Chrystie
3D Dude @ Digital Muse



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Hello,
I bought 3D Xpression+PC2TV with 4 MB ram yesterday, when I install the
card. My computer hang! I am using Sound Blaster series sound board.
When I take it away, 3D Xpression works very fine. However, the system
crash when sound board exist. I have tried to change the sound card.(I
have 1 SB32, 1 SB16 PnP, & 1 SB16.) But it doesn't work!
Can anyone give me any advice?

Thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Titanic (mini series) LW/Lw in the movie arena
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Grant Boucher wrote:
>
> I just wanted to congratulate all the guys on their great work and make
> sure people understand that the TV mini-series done by Digital Muse is NOT
> the James Cameron feature being done by Digital Domain.

Which brings up a pretty awesome LW fact...from what I gather this year
seems to be the mark of LightWave's entry to the "Movie Related rank" in
mass!

So far we got:

Titanic TV Movie fx by: Digital Muse 100% LW CGI (of course it is pure
coincidence i put this production first) ;)

Titanic "silver screen" Movie fx by Digital Domain ..How much LW cgi??
Dunnoo

Warrior Of Waverly Street fx by Computer Cafe. whole lotta LW CGI

Star Trek First COntact film realease trailer fx by Digital Muse Cool LW
Borg ship, and borg/federation logo and beams eh???

Sprung fx by Computer Cafe

Master Of illusions some fx by Computer Cafe and Area 51

"____________" by ???????? (i really forgot) but it has an awesome LW
CGI alien character animated....

-------------
Adam Chrystie
3D Dude @ Digital Muse


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From: [e-mail] (Ray Kulberda)
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Is it possible to create plugins for Lightwave 5.0 (Windows 95) using
Borland C++ 5.0?  If so, how?  I recompiled serv_w.obj, server.lib and
one of the examples generating a dll.  But, Lightwave refuses to load it.
Any help would be appreciated.

--

______________________________________________________________________________
 Ray Kulberda                                       [e-mail]
 LCSR Systems Operator                      http://remus.rutgers.edu/~kulberda

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 02:25:48 +0000
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Adam Chrystie wrote:


> Master Of illusions some fx by Computer Cafe and Area 51

Correction: Lord Of Illusions was the final name..


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Subject: Re: New SGI O2 : how much?
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All true, but none of this makes my machine render any faster...

--
Grant Boucher
[e-mail]


Michael T. Mayers <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> Walter (Jay) Turberville wrote:
>
> [text deleted] ..
> >
> > So, I am trying to figure out EXACTLY where we will see the fast O2
non-bus
> > benefit.  The RAM is its own bottleneck.  The drive is a bottleneck on
its own
> > - and is accessed through a PCI SCSI(Fast-Wide) interface.  It can't
even
> > begin to use the 2.1 Gbs bus.  So perhaps the video is where the
benefit is.
>
> Yes, The RAM is its own bottleneck, but it SUSTAINS 2.1GB/sec.
> It is 256 bit wide / 8 way interleaved / 10ns cycle time SDRAM. That
> works out
> to 3.2GB/sec peak theoretical transfer rate. 2.1GB/sec sustained in real
> world measurements.
>
> A fairly typical pentium system would use 60ns non interleaved 64 bit
> wide DRAM, peaking at
> (16.7MHZ * 64 bits) 133MB/sec.
>
> Big difference.
>
> > But wait - with all this bus bandwidth they are still using 4:1 MJPEG
> > compression on their motion video option.  Shoot!  With a RAID and
FastWide
> > SCSI, they should be able to sustain near lossless video - but they
didn't.
>
> Yes you can, in fact, the architecture looks to me like it can stream in
> 2
> uncompressed video sources (2 x 27MB/sec) via the standard dual
> ultrawide scsi
> busses (via DMA, not tying up the CPU) (2 x 40MB/sec) into memory
> simultaneously.
>
> The compression codec (ICE) is standard, Video IO is optional.
>
> Once the video streams(frames) are in memory, you can use ICE and the
> MRE and CPU
> for video manipulation. Map the streams onto 3d objects, do Image
> Processing, Color Processing,
> perform transitions, etc... All in realtime.
>
> The ICE (Image Compression/Processing Engine) will do hardware assisted
> convolution,
> color processing, jpeg code/decode, mpeg decode, etc..  and it is
> reprogrammable.
>
> The MRE (Memory Rendering Engine) does the 2d/3d work, drawing graphics
> primitives
> and shading/texturing them.
>
> The CPU does 3d transformations and whatever else you can think of.
>
> Also keep in mind, since it is all shared memory, that once something is
> in memory,
> it is instantly accessable by any of the coprocessors.
>
> To those Amiga people out there, The O2 is alot like an Amiga (in
> hardware), Almost
> everything is DMA based, Several Coprocessors orchestrated by the CPU on
> a shared
> memory bus( remember Chip-RAM? ).
> The O2 IMHO is much better however, with a 2.1GB/sec Memory bandwidth,
> you do not have
> to worry about bus-contention as much.. (and the coprocessors do much
> more!) :>
>
> Hopefully, in the future, PC's will be built this way.
>
> It will take time to see the benefit of the O2 UMA, software simply does
> not take advantage of it yet.
> Give it time...
>
> MTM
>
> *********************************************************************
> *              Michael T. Mayers - MINDESIGN limited                *
> *********************************************************************
> *                     http://www.mindesign.com                      *
> *********************************************************************
>

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From: "Simo salonen" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: can i replace particles with objects?
Date: 20 Nov 1996 21:59:55 GMT
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  Just thinking if it's possible to replace particles with objects... has
anybody tried this / is it possible ? i havent
 been able to figure out how to do this (manual does not tell anything
about this).
  It would make some nice effects quite easily.. Thanks..


--
Simo Salonen      [e-mail]

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From: "Matthew R. Taylor" <[e-mail]>
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Evan Ruff wrote:
>
> For sale,
>         Raydream Studio 4.1, all Manuals Box and CDs.
>         3 Books, Raytracing worlds with Pov-Ray, Animation howto CD and 3D
> Modeling Lab.
>         $250, obo
>         All in good condition.
>
> --
> Evan Ruff - CEO Digital Genie
> http://www.geniestudio.com
> --
> Evan Ruff - CEO Digital Genie
> http://www.geniestudio.com
really?  the registration card says in big nasty letters:
NOT FOR RESALE
you can get it new from www.creationengine.com for $200 if you are
a student of staff at a school.
M

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From: Aaron Estrada <[e-mail]>
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 03:04:42 +0000
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jake wrote:
>
> > >>Geoff Suttor wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> ROMERO wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Try using DeBabelizer.
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>> For the PC? I don't think so.
> > >>> If it is then PLEASE let us all know. :)
>
> Just released for NT as of September...much better interface than the
> Mac v
> currently, but soon to be unified...supports mutilple image loads (I
> don't mean
> batch processing, but many single frames open at one; currently limited
> to 1
> on the Mac v) looking forward to using rather than seeing it.
>
> Jake

Photoshop 4.0 has a batch feature too. If you're planning on getting
Photoshop or have it already, you can save your money and not get Debab.
Photoshop doesn't support as many formats, but you aren't likely to need
the missing formats anyway!

-Aaron

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From: [e-mail] (Hermann Helbok)
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Subject: sell Indy
Date: 25 Nov 1996 14:33:24 GMT
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Hello!

I sell following SGI for Hannes Feldkirchner:

Hardware:

1 Indy with an 4400 SC CPU
  128 MB RAM
  21" Monitor
  Keyboard, Mouse
  IndyCam
  4,3 GB Ultra Wide SCSI HD
  XZ Grapics
  Isdn-Card

Software:

Lightwave
C-Develpoment Kit
Digital Media Tools
Irix 5.3 uvam.
etcetc.

FOR 145.000 .- OES
or 21.000 DM

Please call me at
++43-512-571986
or Mail me back if you are interested in this offer.



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with best regards
Hermann.


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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: What about Martin Hash's 3-Dimensional Animation?
Date: 25 Nov 1996 11:35:55 GMT
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Maybe they should raise the price of Animation Master to 1,500 or better
yet 3,500 , maybe then it would be considered a professional level
product. Then again one should just buy a professional level product to be
a proffesional animator.

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From: Gregg Lukomski <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: SGI? With today's market? was:O2, How Much?
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:39:16 -0800
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Grant Boucher wrote:
>
> Gregg Lukomski <[e-mail]> wrote in article
> <[e-mail]>...
> >
> >    You still need a talent to 'stay' in business and make a client
> > happy, but the SGI logo sure isn't hurting *my* prospects...>

> Except that you are still working out of Orlando, homey!  :}

  Heh, this is true, but I actually opted for Florida when I finished
film school.  LA and New York didn't appeal to me (little fish/big
pond),
I spent 5 years working in and around Chicago while in school (same old
pond) and then there was North Carolina (little pond with ONE monster
fish
swimming around) and Atlanta (pond with some really scummy areas).
Orlando
seemed harmless and the best part is that I can work here freelance and
not have to punch a clock.  I'm starting to chafe a bit at the lack of
really high-end work here, but altogether, you can live cheap and write
your own ticket without having to completely sell out.

  I've considered California at some future date, but thats only after
I tap out the ceiling in this market :)


---
Gregg Lukomski
Orlando, Florida
[e-mail]

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From: "Wayne S. Williams" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Metaball Crash
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:43:57 +0000
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Bug?

    I made the mistake of exceeding the range of strength when creating a
metaball, with the "Add Metaball" plugin, I entered .5 (this occured
with both "low" and "medium" settings).  That was ok until I used the
"Metaball" plugin to actually create the metaball surface, I tried 7, 8,
and the default of 14.
        Instead of a message warning that the .5 entry was out of it's
range (I admit I cannot remember every range limit in LW), modeler and
everything I had been working on just went away.  No I didn't save my
work in progress.....but I was about too, really...

        Anyway, this is just to let others know before they lose stuff,
and to point it out to Newtek.

DEC Alpha, 21164 300, Windows NT 3.51

     3D Wayne / CyLum 3D Imaging
____________________________________________________
     http://www.gate.net/~dddwayne

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From: [e-mail] (James Bond)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Problems in Layout module of Lightwave 3D 5.0 (Intel)
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[e-mail] (Thilo Rohrhirsch) wrote:

>Hi everybody,

>I've found this Lightwave newsgroup address in the Lightwave user
>manual. As nobody from the NewTek staff replies to my faxes and mails
>I ask you if you might be able to help me.

>Whenever I want to load a bigger scene file (for example "blade")
>into the layout module of Lightwave 3D 5.0, I only see an empty
>camera view. As soon as I want to generate a preview or render the
>scene the computer crashes or doesn't react anymore. This happens in
>WindowsNT 3.51 as well as in Windows 95. The same scene files worked
>properly in Lightwave 3D 4.0. So the problems shouldn't be caused by
>my hard- or software configuration. Apart from that I also tried it
>on another computer with completely different hardware, but I got the
>same problems. If these problems are already known and there are
>already an upgrade or patch files available in which these problems
>are solved, please let me know how I can get them (name of file(s)
>and internet address of the server providing these files).

>John Gross (editor of LWPro) told me that the problems could be
>caused by the OpenGL options. Therefore I turned them off - but the
>problems remained.

>Most of the scene files are not loadable. Funny is that for example
>mech.lws is loadable, but mechwalk.lws is not.

>The problems also occur if I try to load the scene files directly
>from the CD-ROM.


>Thilo


>P.S.: Does Lightwave 3D 5.0 also work with WindowsNT 4.0?



1)What are your  -Regional Settings-in the Control Panel of NT(the
icon with the globe) ?

2)Yes LW5.0 works under NT4.0.


Regards
--
James Bond



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Subject: Re: Renderman is dead...
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:54:41 +0000
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In article <01bbdaa2$efca72c0$0f69face@cockabooty>, Grant Boucher
<[e-mail]> writes
>Let's start a new thread war...I can't wait for Renderman to croak.  IMHO
>it's an ancient, scripted, limited capability, antique, raycasting,
>over-rated, shadow-mapping, piece-of-crap.  Time to join the 90's!  :}
>
Hey, Grant, if you have time to kill on this sort of thing I reckon
they're not working you hard enough over at D2 ;-)

PS Found a PAL player yet?
--
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Web site: http://www.mobydick.demon.co.uk
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alon wrote:
>
> I would like to know ,is there a perfect export import utilities,
> for bringing 3ds objects from 3d Studio to Lw5, INCLUDING textures.

LW doesn't support the same methods of texture mapping as 3DS.
Can't do it, at least in today's version.

For a better method than LW's own importer, see http://www.threedee.com
.

- John

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What SGI spec would we need to get to exceed the speed of a Pentium Pro
200, when running Lightwave?


Nigel Critten
3D Artist East Point Software
http://www.gameware.demon.co.uk


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Can anyone tell me who we would need to contact about getting on the
Lightwave Beta program for Intel and SGI platforms?

Nigel Critten
3D Artist - East Point Software
http://www.gameware.demon.co.uk

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On 24 Nov 1996 22:13:03 -0700, [e-mail] (Walter (Jay)
Turberville ) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]> 0@0.0 (Steve) writes:
>>From: 0@0.0 (Steve)
>>Subject: Morph point organisation??
>>Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:56:32 GMT
>
>>I'm trying to get used to morphing and have constructed two flat
>>polygons with the same number of points but different shapes.
>
>>Now the first problem is that when it morphs from 1 to 2 it disappears
>>and then returns. By turning on double-sided surfaces it works but was
>>is really happening?
>
>>I have tried creating an in-between shape 3, and tried morphing from
>>1-3 then 3-2 with dissolve envelopes set-up. Now the problem is that
>>instead of morphing smoothly to the nearest point it morphs and then
>>morphs again.
>
>>It seems that Lightwave's morphing works on a point numbering system
>>rather than nearest point system. Is there a way to re-number the
>>points??
>
>>Cheers
>
>>Steve
>
>Generally speaking, it is better to create your morph target directly from
>your morph sort.  You are correct that point order is important.  In fact,
>that is what morph does.  It "tweens" the point locations.  My guess is that
>your morph actually ends up "turning around" your object so that the polygons'
>surface normals end up facing the wrong direction.  I know of no way to easily
>renumber the points.
>
>
>Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
>Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
>http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber

Maybe they'll include a utility/plugin to rectify this situation in
version 6.

Thanks anyway

Steve

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From: Glenn Chung <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Is PVR Beta SP quality?
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:36:53 -0600
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To: Mark Plummer <[e-mail]>

Mark Plummer wrote:
>
> I'm considering buying a DPS PVR for PowerMac when it comes out next
> year.  My question, to those who have used the PVR:  Is it capable of Beta
> SP
> quality?
>
> thanks
>
> mark plummer
> fort collins, colorado

Chrominance and luminance bandwidth along with resolution are all better
than BetaSP quality - and you get component outs with the base board.
BUT, you have to be careful of M-JPEG artifacts appearing in certain
situations (e.g. moving gradient). 90% of the time, this won't be a
problem.

Glenn
Visuality LLC

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From: Glenn Chung <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: i want it now!!!
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shemano wrote:
>
> i've been reading this group for a few months now and i am ready to
> actually get lightwave for 95/nt.  could you folks tell me who has the best
> prices.  i qualify for student pricing too.  thanks in advance
>
> dave shemano
> president
> wright multimedia inc.
> [e-mail]

Remember that student versions aren't legal for production work. The
best price you can probably get new is around $1000 -  try Safe Harbor.

Glenn
Visuality LLC

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From: Glenn Chung <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: New Lightwave Version 1997
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Benn Dunnington wrote:
>
> nkshivan wrote:
> >
> > Steve Kellener wrote:
> > >
> > > Do you know anything about the Mac version of Lightwave?
> > >
> > > Can we expect it soon?  I haven't heard too much about it.
> >
> >  end of December/ early January...
> --------------------------------------------
> Where did you get this new date?  The last I heard from distributors,
> they were still looking for it by end of November.
>
> -Benn

Newtek web site says December, so figure late January or thereabouts.

Glenn
Visuality LLC

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 Lord Of Illusions was the final name..
---------------------------

And that was last year....and LW had already been used on Star Trek
trailers....and it was used in the last James Bond film.....

I haven't noticed the film stuff picking up THAT much specifically....


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Lee Stranahan


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Where did you get this new date?  The last I heard from distributors,
they were still looking for it by end of November.

-----------------------------

Well, it IS the end of November - what was the state of the version
showing at Comdex?


\
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Lee Stranahan


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From: [e-mail] (Gadget®©™)
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Subject: Re: ATI 3D TURBO PC2TV vs MATROX MILLENIUM
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On 24 Nov 1996 01:43:57 GMT, the mortal from [e-mail] (zoo) wrote:
>You guys got it all wrong.  ATI compares their 3D EXPRESSION to the MYSTIQUE
>and the PRO TURBO to the MILLENIUM.  The 1st comparison are both 3D gaming
>solutions, and the other comparison are both professional 2D solutions.  That's
>why one has all these 3D features like bi-linear filters and the other doesn't
>hardly have any 3D features(MILLENIUM that is).  The EXPRESSION still has a lot
>more features than the MYSTIQUE plus it's performance is alot better.  The
>MILLENIUM is probably faster than the other 3 but this is 2D performance, and
>it doesn't do such a good job in DOS.  Not bad, but it does go down a little.
>BUT...it's the professional card meant for 2D win95 and not for games or DOS.
>I don't know about the PRO TURNO and MILLENIUM combination.  But I've read alot
>about the other 2 and I have the EXPRESSION myself, and I had a STEALTH 3D 2000
>also.  The ATI EXPRESSION +PC2TV has a 2nd generation of the 3D RAGE chipset
>and it's alot faster.  And it has the best software playback of AVI/MPEG, and
>it has the most 3D functions, and still without being any more expensive it has
>composite/VHS and SVHS output to tv.  This is nice for me b/c I do some 3D
>graphics and it gives me a means of output to tape.
>
>BUT there's lots of info, websites, and reviews on the web about comparison of
>these cards.

What are the URL's? I've only see the offical stuff that tell you
they're the best.

Also, I've heard Videologic Grafixstar 600 being a fast but cheap 2D
card, does anybody know how it performs in lightwave?

--
Send ya later.
Gadget.

Raytraced Imagery
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/gadget/

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From: Ken Geary <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Is PVR Beta SP quality?
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Mark Plummer wrote:
>
> I'm considering buying a DPS PVR for PowerMac when it comes out next
> year.  My question, to those who have used the PVR:  Is it capable of Beta
> SP
> quality?
>
> thanks
>
> mark plummer
> fort collins, colorado
------------
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES (in and out and even does
MII if you have one of those rare beasts)

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From: [e-mail] (Alan)
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But, what's the policy? Is there no answer to my question?

Alan
>[e-mail] (Gordon Keenan) wrote:

>Buy some Rosary Beads and start praying...........

>(With toungue in cheek)
>Has anyone wondered why Tim Jennison never appears on here?
>Have you watched  "DARK STAR"..... Who does the guy in the freeze
>chamber remind me of.......


>On Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:15:09 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>>I have LW 4.0. I want to upgrade to LW 5.0.
>>I havent used LW in a while and I think my dongle
>>does not work. So what is the latest dongle policy.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Alan
>>




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I'm considering buying a DPS PVR for PowerMac when it comes out next
year.  My question, to those who have used the PVR:  Is it capable of Beta
SP
quality?

thanks

mark plummer
fort collins, colorado



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Mark Plummer wrote:
>
> I'm considering buying a DPS PVR for PowerMac when it comes out next
> year.  My question, to those who have used the PVR:  Is it capable of Beta
> SP
> quality?
>
> thanks
>
> mark plummer
> fort collins, colorado

Absa-friggin-lute-ley! :)

Component straight into you BetaSP deck.

Geoff Suttor
Animator.
Digital Video Productions Australia.
WK: mailto:[e-mail]
HM: mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.powerup.com.au/~gefbec

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FLYER SYSTEM FOR SALE!!!    -    $ 8,500.00 OBO

I am not a dealer but I am able to take Visa, MC, and Amex for payment
(with 5% surcharge) or cash pre-payment.
You will be responsible for shipping charges.

Please respond by e-mail if you want to make offers.
[e-mail]
Leave your phone # and best time to call to complete transaction over
phone.
Or call:
Tom Kubat, VIP, Inc.  [phone]
3058 Marilyn Way
Santa Barbara, CA 93105

All items are in excellent condition with all manuals and original
disks, etc.
This system is great!  Everything works & is stable.  Our studio has two
Avid MC-1000's and only use the Flyer for Lightwave...

----------------------------------------------------
Amiga 4000 - 040 with 4MB of RAM on Mother Board
Warp Engine 040 at 40mhz with 28MB of Fast Ram (Total System 34MB)
External cable for Warp SCSI-2 driver
Maxtor 1.2 GB IDE Drive
4X CD ROM
Video Toaster 4000, V.4.1
Lightwave 4.1
Video Flyer, V.4.1
YCP-1000 (The BEST YC I/O adapter for the Toaster Flyer)
Magnavox Pro RGB Monitor
No flyer drives...I have a 4GB Seagate 15150N if you want to offer extra
for it.
Octopus Cable
Sync Strainer
Deluxe Paint 4.1
Directory Opus 4
AdPro 2.5
Morph Plus
Pixel Pro
Asim CDFS
Cross DOS & Cross MAC with drivers for Jazz & Zip drives
Lots of other software, utilities, etc. downloaded from internet.

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Subject: Problems in Layout module
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On 11-24-96, [e-mail]  was going on about Problems in
Layout module


  >I've found this Lightwave newsgroup address in the Lightwave user
  >manual. As nobody from the NewTek staff replies to my faxes and mails
  >I ask you if you might be able to help me.

  >Whenever I want to load a bigger scene file (for example "blade")
  >into the layout module of Lightwave 3D 5.0, I only see an empty
  >camera view. As soon as I want to generate a preview or render the
  >scene the computer crashes or doesn't react anymore. This happens in
  >WindowsNT 3.51 as well as in Windows 95. The same scene files worked
  >properly in Lightwave 3D 4.0. So the problems shouldn't be caused by
  >my hard- or software configuration. Apart from that I also tried it
  >on another computer with completely different hardware, but I got the
  >same problems. If these problems are already known and there are
  >already an upgrade or patch files available in which these problems
  >are solved, please let me know how I can get them (name of file(s)
  >and internet address of the server providing these files).

  >John Gross (editor of LWPro) told me that the problems could be
  >caused by the OpenGL options. Therefore I turned them off - but the
  >problems remained.

  >Most of the scene files are not loadable. Funny is that for example
  >mech.lws is loadable, but mechwalk.lws is not.

  >The problems also occur if I try to load the scene files directly
  >from the CD-ROM.


  >Thilo


  >P.S.: Does Lightwave 3D 5.0 also work with WindowsNT 4.0?
  >


Try changing your Content directory from X:/Newtek/Programs to just
X:/Newtek.  That should help on scenes that are having problems finding
objects and images.

As far as the crashing, it's hard to say.  You have enough RAM?

M.

---
 þ CMPQwk 1.42 #6.3 Anencephaly is a no-brainer.

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Grant Boucher wrote:
>
> In fact, all you need is to add Open Inventor support to LightWave, as most
> Inventro apps dump Rman RIB files...
> --
> Grant Boucher
> [e-mail]
>

--
    Grant,
    How are things in the domain? I have been programming in
Inventor since it was just IrisInventor and the lack of decent
RIB support has long been a tremendous frustration. Iv2Rib is uselessly
buggy and I have yet to see any Inventor app that doesn't rely on it.
    Please, what Inventor apps are you referring to? I don't want
to discuss whether or not RIB and Rman are any good (every tool has
its job, and your feelings on the subject are well known: see post
"renderman is dead" for that discussion).

Mark Lasersohn
Cow House Productions
[e-mail]
http://www.cowhouse.com
330-569-7492

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i've been reading this group for a few months now and i am ready to
actually get lightwave for 95/nt.  could you folks tell me who has the best
prices.  i qualify for student pricing too.  thanks in advance

dave shemano
president
wright multimedia inc.
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Scott Bragg)
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Subject: Re: New Lightwave Version 1997
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On 17 Nov 1996 10:19:49 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>Here are my wish-list on the new version of the LW:
>1. radiosity rendering (Radiosity rendering method actually renders faster
>than tradisional method)

Get Lightscape.  It provides radiosity, but I don't think it's a
plugin.   Though I'd love it if it were.

Also, Radiosity FASTER than Ray Tracing?   I think not unless some
incredible breakthroughs have come about in optimization of the
radiosity algorithms recently.

>2. Softimage-like bones and IK.

Hmm.. haven't used SI in too long.  Can't comment on this one.

>3. built-in particles such as smoke and etc. (hey, 3D MAX has it!)

Even on MAX it's a plugin. :)  Also, particles do not make the best
smoke.  Volumetric lighting and  very well designed textures do.
Watch for what you can do without particles or volumetrics on my  web
page soon.

>4. Spline based modeling

Been there since 3.0.  It's called Spline Patching and I haven't
touched it since Metanurbs. :)


Scott Bragg
Electron Dreams
http://www.electrondreams.com

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On 21 Nov 1996 00:13:42 GMT, "Dan Ablan" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> Defectors from 3DStudio like myself might have noticed, alongside a
>> huge sense of relief, that there's no "exclude" button on the lights
>> panel - i.e. no easy way to get a light to hit only non-excluded
>> objects. Has anyone thought of creating a plugin to fill this void, or
>> is this just not an option for a raytracer?
>        Have you tried using the No Diffuse
>        or No Specular settings?

Dan,
    The problem here is there are time when to get the desired
effect,  I need to allow multiple lights all effecting object, however
some lights need to NOT effect some objects, while those objects are
effected by yet another set of lights.  Currently, the only way I know
of is a composite pass.  However, this doesn't work too well in
animations with reflectivity.

Scott Bragg
Electron Dreams Animation and Multimedia
http://www.electrondreams.com


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Grant Boucher wrote:
>
> http://www.worley.com/
>
> 'nuff said...
>
> --
> Grant "hyping my bud" Boucher
> Digital Effects Supervisor
> Digital Domain
> [e-mail]


The word "Gaffer" and a countdown clock have started a firestorm of
speculation on the mailing list, great marketing idea. Now wouldn't it
be interesting if, when it reaches zero, it starts counting up. The
firestorm might turn into a jihad!


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From: [e-mail] (Kurt Røsand)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: HIIP problem.
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:47:24 GMT
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Hi, I have a problem with the HIIP savers. Whenever I try to save an
image as .JPG it comes out gray and it looks like it has had a third
encounter with mister fieldrendering. Anybody having or had the same
problem?

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I think the absence of this feature, along with the limited abilities to
animate textures, are LW's two most serious weaknesses right now (oh, and
no UV mapping, that too).

'Course it doesn't usually make it into the feature grids in DV, CGW,
etc...and I can't quite see the ads-- Lightwave 6 - now you can exclude
lights! ...
But I really hope it gets in there. Max has the option for a light to
either only *include* certain surfaces or only *exclude* certain surfaces.

-H

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From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Waite)
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Subject: FS: GLyder Max 3d accerator
Date: 25 Nov 1996 21:12:27 GMT
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Symmetic GLyder MAX forsale (GLint 3d/texture acceleration):

Brand New, in box, never been used.  I purchased two last month an ended
up only needing one.   I used to have a Matrox Millenium running Max,
when I switched to the GLyder I was shocked to see the difference.
Mostly with real time texture mapping, and smooth motion with higher
polygon counts.  My machine literally runs like an Indigo Extreme, never
thought IÕd see that.  Anyway thatÕs my plug. . . It retails for $950.00
I bought it last month for $879.00 IÕll sacrifice for lower.  Make me a
reasonable offer.

P.S. Go to www.symmetric.com to see card bio.  Incidently it is the only
card, even of the more expensive cards that accelerates video full frame
640x480.  (does open GL & Heidi)

chao.

Jeremy Waite
[e-mail]

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From: Jean Marc Rodrigue <[e-mail]>
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Date: 26 Nov 1996 02:10:50 GMT
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[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) wrote:
>>> Ofcourse... A PC is faster, and an Amiga better... But is it worth the
>>hassle??
>>> I've had an Amiga for 8 years and its multi-tasking system is still unbeaten,
>>> yes.. But speed is critical for me. I wasn't about to fork out lots of cash to
>>> get a 060.. Instead I bought a PC and have never looked back....
>>>
>>> Just my opinion.
>>> _____o________o___________________________________________
>>> \\/\/|eBo de W|t! e-mail: [e-mail]
>>>                 homepage: http://www.cybercomm.nl/~wdwbest
>
>>Well, I haven't had an Amiga quite that long, but in the 5 years I've
>>owned one, I'm still trying to figure out what makes the multi-tasking
> our Amiga at least was no exactly the most
>stable machine in the world.  It is the only computer that I have ever had
>that had a chip work its way out of a socket.  Very odd.  All in all a fine
>machine that was ahead of its time and then failed to keep up.
>
>
>Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
>Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
>http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber

That last sentiment is sad but true.

 However, in defense of the Amiga, I must add that the Apple II we use for our
flat-copy motion-control system has chips popping out all the time!

Jean Marc Rodrigue
Twister Digital Design
http://www.creativepostinc.com/


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[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) wrote:
>>> Ofcourse... A PC is faster, and an Amiga better... But is it worth the
>>hassle??
>>> I've had an Amiga for 8 years and its multi-tasking system is still unbeaten,
>>> yes.. But speed is critical for me. I wasn't about to fork out lots of cash to
>>> get a 060.. Instead I bought a PC and have never looked back....
>>>
>>> Just my opinion.
>>> _____o________o___________________________________________
>>> \\/\/|eBo de W|t! e-mail: [e-mail]
>>>                 homepage: http://www.cybercomm.nl/~wdwbest
>
>>Well, I haven't had an Amiga quite that long, but in the 5 years I've
>>owned one, I'm still trying to figure out what makes the multi-tasking
.. our Amiga at least was not exactly the most
>stable machine in the world.  It is the only computer that I have ever had
>that had a chip work its way out of a socket.  Very odd.  All in all a fine
>machine that was ahead of its time and then failed to keep up.
>
>
>Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
>Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
>http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber

That last sentiment is sad but certainly true.

However, in defense of the Amiga, the Apple II we use for our flat-copy
motion-control camera system has chips popping out all the time !

Jean Marc Rodrigue
Twister Digital Design
http://www.creativepostinc.com


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From: Jean Marc Rodrigue <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: !!!!!! Power Texture Plugin<- NEVER WORKED!! USELESS!@   NEVER WORKED!!!
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Whenever I have tried to use the Power Texture plugin I have had no problems loading
BMPs or saving/loading the surface file, however the results are completely
different in a LW render than what I saw in the Modeler Pwer Texture preview.

How useful is that ? What am I missing ? HELP !!!

Jean Marc Rodrigue
Twister Digital Design
http://www.creativepostinc.com


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From: Ben Cannon <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Renderman is dead...
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 00:34:47 -0800
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Grant Boucher wrote:
>
> Let's start a new thread war...I can't wait for Renderman to croak.  IMHO
> it's an ancient, scripted, limited capability, antique, raycasting,
> over-rated, shadow-mapping, piece-of-crap.  Time to join the 90's!  :}

ROFL!!!!

Grant, I think you've really lost it this time :)

Cheers!
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Paige)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: lighting problems in LightWave 5.0
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 03:40:49 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>  Also remember that only the first 8 lights will be used for OpenGL.
>
>David Carlson
>CONTINUUM
>3D graphics and animation

Assuming you've got the option for number of lights for OpenGL to use
set to 8.

Dave Paige
[e-mail]
http://www.access.digex.net/~davep

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From: [e-mail] (Richard Norman)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Morph point organisation??
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In article <[e-mail]>, 0@0.0 (Steve) wrote:

> I'm trying to get used to morphing and have constructed two flat
> polygons with the same number of points but different shapes.
>
> Now the first problem is that when it morphs from 1 to 2 it disappears
> and then returns. By turning on double-sided surfaces it works but was
> is really happening?
>
> I have tried creating an in-between shape 3, and tried morphing from
> 1-3 then 3-2 with dissolve envelopes set-up. Now the problem is that
> instead of morphing smoothly to the nearest point it morphs and then
> morphs again.
>
> It seems that Lightwave's morphing works on a point numbering system
> rather than nearest point system. Is there a way to re-number the
> points??
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve


Since your polygons are flat, and If your polygons are not too complex, you can
"renumber" the point order by selecting the points and do a kill polygons which
leaves you nothing but points.

Then you can choose the points starting with whichever makes sense and go
clockwise. Then hit the p key to remake the polygons which connects the dots
in the order in which you chose them.

Do the same with the target poly, but be sure to start with the point
to which the start point on the first poly is to morph to.  By going
clockwise on
both polys the rest of the points should be in the right order for
morphing as long as
you have the same number of points in both polys and you have really
simple polys.

I'm applying a trick that I learned watching Dan Ablan's new tape from ProWave.
He wasn't doing morphs but it should work.  He was showing how to build logos
by merging simple shapes.  Of course, if you are trying to go from a cow
to a space ship
it might be a tad difficult, but just think how the cow must feel ;-)

Good luck,
Richard
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: AVILOAD V1.0 DEMO (No More BETA!)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:56:00 -0500
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FULL RELEASE VERSION (DEMO LIMITTED TO 25 FRAMES)

Available NOW at: www.en.com/users/bforce

If you have a Digtial Video board that supports Windows AVI files,
and Lightwave of course, GET IT NOW.  If you have a bunch of software
compressed AVI's that you'd like to toss into your lightwave
animations... GET IT NOW.

BurntPixels
www.en.com/users/bforce

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From: [e-mail] (David Hoelzer)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Modeler won't run...
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:17:24 GMT
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Let me start by saying that I don't want to hear any dongle cracks..
I've got five licensed versions of lightwave here and it doesn't
matter which dongle I try to use..  Lightwave runs just fine..  But on
one of the machines (P133/64megs), modeller refuses to run..
Actually, it doesn't refuse..  It pops up on the screen and then exits
immediately..  It used to work just fine..  And yes, I have tried
reinstalling..  Any other ideas on what could be so peculiar about
this one machine?


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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Stale?
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:43:15 GMT
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On Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:29:38 GMT, [e-mail] (Gordon Keenan)
wrote:

>With all the talk about new versions of LightWave am I the only one
>who thinks NewTek are starting to become stale once again?
>
>Where is the information to keep people interested in LightWave?
>Why bother having a Web Page that never seems to be updated?
>Why no teaser plugins or upgrades to keep people happy?
>
>When you compare the way Kinetix is marketing 3DS MAX it starts to
>show that the current people at NewTek really don't seem to be focused
>enough to get their product taken up by the masses.
>
>Have you seen the support for MAX?
Have you seen the price???
>Have you seen the range of plugins for MAX?
Have you seen the price???
>Have you seen the MAX Web site?
Have you seen the price???
>Now that DPS in the United Kingdom are no longer distributing
>LightWave, I have this real bad feeling that things are going to start
>getting worse for the end users...........
>
>Gordon Keenan
>24Bit Club/FX24 Productions
>




John Donlevie
Road-Ease, Inc.
Drexel Hill, PA
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Shadow)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: I need a critic - castle~1.jpg (0/2)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:34:35 GMT
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I am new to lightwave 3D.....
This is only the second image that I have ever created and would like
to get some input on what you think......

if you do not want to post your message here please feel free to send
it to my e-mail.....

ANY help with this would be appreciated!

:)




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Subject: I need a critic - castle~1.jpg (1/2)
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: infinite parenting loop
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Occasionally, I have loaded a scene in lw5 in nt4 and recieve the
error, infinite parenting loop detected.... I click continue but
nothing happens till i use task manager to terminate and start over.
What is up here?



John Donlevie
Road-Ease, Inc.
Drexel Hill, PA
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Gadget®©™)
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Subject: Is Videologic Grafixstar 600 GFX card any good in Lightwave?
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I've read a review and they say its a good 2D, W95, Dos card for its
price, I know it dosen't support hardware OGL but does it do well in
software form compeared with other cards in its price range?

thanx.

--
Send ya later.
Gadget.

Raytraced Imagery
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/gadget/

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From: [e-mail] (-- not set --)
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MotionClips, Stockfootage at 752x480/jpeg on CD-ROM,
is available for a limited time at the direct price of just $40!
More info see our site at www.accadia.com or call 1 716 881-5215.



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Hmmmm - maybe the countdown is the number of chances NewTek has left to
release software by Steve Worley they had six months ago....





_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan


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From: Gregg Lukomski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Stale?
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:55:47 -0800
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:29:38 GMT, [e-mail] (Gordon Keenan)
> wrote:
>
> >With all the talk about new versions of LightWave am I the only one
> >who thinks NewTek are starting to become stale once again?

> >When you compare the way Kinetix is marketing 3DS MAX it starts to
> >show that the current people at NewTek really don't seem to be focused
> >enough to get their product taken up by the masses.
> >
> >Have you seen the support for MAX?
> Have you seen the price???

   Yeah, Its a bit high, but what does price have to do with it, when
the
profit from a single flying logo should close that gap :)  So you pay
off
the software in two jobs instead of one... its still cheap considering
that
you can actually make a living using it.

> >Have you seen the range of plugins for MAX?
> Have you seen the price???

   Since price seems to be a hangup, how many man-hours are you wasting
trying to 'bone' a LW object to do character work?  Now how much of that
can you pass on to a client before he realizes that the MAX user down
the
street actually has lower 'time' overhead, even with the extra cost of
plugins and the software entry price?

> >Have you seen the MAX Web site?
> Have you seen the price???

   Heh, kind of shows that the extra money you spend is at least going
somewhere worthwhile, rather than keep dead hardware afloat :)  I may
be wrong, but if it hasn't happened already, LW has to be taking up the
slack for Toaster/Flyer sales.  I hope that NewTek figures out where its
real moneymaker is and buys Alan and Stuart and their gang a bunch of
Lear Jets to keep them smiling and not get fed up with the Commodoresque
marketing of LW.  A three minute demo...  I expect to see that from
other
animators, not to show off the features of the latest software
revision.

   Heck, I'd rather spend time working with Lightwave than Max, but LW
is
seriously lagging.  There are some good plug-ins out/comming for LW, but
no
where near the MAX volume, or freeware equivalents that can pull a
project
out of the frying pan in a pinch.  Ok, MetaNurbs are great, but good
skinning
and UV mapping as well as true spline animation would make them much
more
usable.  The days of feeling superior 'cause LW has built in Lens
Flares/3DS
doesn't, are way over.  I'm personally very tired of waiting a year for
an
update to the core software... and then have platforms lag behind.  With
talk
of LW '97 (for Intel and Alpha), hopefully the other platforms will at
least
get buggy first releases of 5 by then!

   I had really hoped to stick with Lightwave for the long haul.  I'm
very
confortable with it, and I have a wonderful comfort in knowing its
limits
so I can bill accordingly.  The only problem is that LW is currently
more
desirable than MAX to me, but SI and MAX seem to be expanding by leaps
and
bounds (with push button features that take days w/LW), while NewTek is
simply plodding along.  Seems that everyday there is a new MAX plug in,
or
another layer added to the SI/Sumatra hype festival :)  But at least
there
is someone stirring up some noise about M$/Kinetix, while I'm still
waiting
for LW 5.0 SGI (and can't even get a price on the upgrade to year old
software!)  Unless LW '97 or whatever the 'rumored announcement' is
about
(and it better not be SUN/NewTek Interent TV!), I'm just going to invest
my LW 5.0 upgrade money toward an SI license.  I sat back and watched C=
destroy a wonderful computer through bad marketing and NewTek seems to
be
taking Alan and Stuart's LW down the same road.

--
Gregg Lukomski
Orlando, Florida
[e-mail]

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From: TL Westgate <[e-mail]>
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Just like the subject says. External or internal (for an Amiga 2000),
doesn't matter. Just looking for something cheap to run tape thru a
toaster with. E-mail offers directly, please.

TL

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From: [e-mail] (David Wyand)
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Hi All!

I've heard that there is a character animation mailing list around somewhere.
Could someone plase pass on the particulars?  Thanks.

                                        -Dave
                                         [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Steven Johansen)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Modeler won't run...
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On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:17:24 GMT, [e-mail] (David
Hoelzer) wrote:

>Let me start by saying that I don't want to hear any dongle cracks..
>I've got five licensed versions of lightwave here and it doesn't
>matter which dongle I try to use..  Lightwave runs just fine..  But on
>one of the machines (P133/64megs), modeller refuses to run..
>Actually, it doesn't refuse..  It pops up on the screen and then exits
>immediately..  It used to work just fine..  And yes, I have tried
>reinstalling..  Any other ideas on what could be so peculiar about
>this one machine?
>

    I understand that modeller has had problems if the language
setting for the keyboard was other than      English(United States)
    Can't say if thats the problem in your case but you might
care to check.
    Are you using Win95 or NT?

    Good Luck

        Steven

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From: [e-mail] (Eric Kornblum)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Mac, Electric Image Brodcast or Lightwave 3d.
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 03:27:41 -0800
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>It also costs 5 or 6 times as much. :^)

Actually Electric Image Broadcast is only 2 times as much.
Of course, if you want a modeler, make it 3 :)

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From: Eric Hance <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: PowerTexture
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Eolo Perfido (NecroN) wrote:
>
> How can i install power texture in Win95 ???
>
> Thanks
>
> NecroN

Sorry... Power Texture only works under Windows NT, I believe
it has to do with the implementation of OpenGL that Win95 uses.
Just one of the many reasons I finally moved to NT...

That, and the PPro 200 with 80 Megs of RAM I built <grin>.

Hope this helps...

    -Eric

                Visit us at:

            http://www.cropcircles.com

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From: TOY 0 <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 3D ARTISTS wanted!!!!
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:43:27 +0000
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Carlos Cardozo wrote:
>
> "G.O.T" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >I am looking for professional 3D artist who wants to work on
> >a commission basis on a new web site project.
>
> >Extras: Free Homepage, E-Mail account, ftp etc.
>
> >please reply ASAP
> >dan
>
> Here's Argentina listening....
> Tell me more about....
>
> [e-mail]

Hola
Como veo estas en Agentina te escribo en Español:

Somos un grupo freelance en España, Trabajamos Con dos Genesis MP
con 100 Mb/Ram, 8 Gb de disco Duro por cada una, llebamos más de
4 años en el mundo de la animación 3d, si necesitas nuestros servicios
ponte en contacto con :

Alejandro
[e-mail]

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Wayne S. Williams <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> Hi Keith,
>
> Keith Frank wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone help.  I've been modeling a character that I'm going to
> > animate.  In modeler all of my polygons are facing the right direction
> > and when my open gl preview is on everything looks fine.  When I bring
> > the object into layout, certain polygons disappear.  The problem
doesn't
> > correct itself when I try to turn on the doublesided feature in the
> > surfaces panel.  I'm at a loss for what to do.  Every other time
> > something like this has happened it has turned out to be a polygon
> > facing the wrong direction.  This does not appear to be the case this
> > time.  Am I overlooking something?  Thanks in advance.
>
>    It sounds to me like you have some illegal polygons.  These are polys
> that have 4 or more vertices, some of which are not in the same plane;
> or the poly has a concave edge somewhere.  It's pretty easy to fix, just
> triple the object, or find the offending polygons and triple them only.
>
> This should help, good luck!
>
>    3D Wayne / CyLum 3D Imaging
> _____________________________________________________
>    http://www.gate.net/~dddwayne
>
or just the affected polygons.  In Modeler makesure that your in polygon
mode and hit the "w" key.  A requestor will pop up hit the "+" key next to
the non-planer polygon line.  This will select only the non-planer polygons
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From: flogic@198.59.115.2 (Phillip Minke)
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>
>
>
>
> >When I installed a programme it didn't put files all over the hard
> >drive. Most times it built a directory and added a line to the startup
> >sequence. Deleting it was simple. I could do in 10MB ram on the Amiga
> >what the PC only just manages with 32MB (Talking Lightwave here) so
> >something is clearly wrong.
>
> For what its worth, I ran LW 4.0 successfully on a 4mb 486-33 notebook.  Slow,
> but it ran.  Pretty sure you couldn't do that on an Amiga (perhaps could with
> 3rd party software.  Windows has virtual memory built in.  I'm not flaming
> the Amiga, just getting the record straight.  The Amiga did multitask MUCH
> better than Win 3.1.

What do you mean? I saw LW run on a Amiga with 4MB of ram. Virtual memory is no big deal since you can download the programs for Free off of Aminet

> >Wil Mobberley  - 3D graphic artist
> >Web site: http://www.mobydick.demon.co.uk
> >------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
> Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
> http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
> .



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From: nkshivan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: New Lightwave Version 1997
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:22:58 +0000
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Benn Dunnington wrote:
>
> nkshivan wrote:
> >
> > Steve Kellener wrote:
> > >
> > > Do you know anything about the Mac version of Lightwave?
> > >
> > > Can we expect it soon?  I haven't heard too much about it.
> >
> >  end of December/ early January...
> --------------------------------------------
> Where did you get this new date?  The last I heard from distributors,
> they were still looking for it by end of November.
>
> -Benn
> --
 from NewTek... it was supposed to be released on Nov 15th.  Being a
cynic, I called on Nov 14th & voila! The release date was pushed back to
"the end of December".  Unofficial reasons I've heard is 1) the modeler
is not up to spec yet; 2) waiting for the release of the "new"
version.   One advantage might be gained by this delay... you'll be able
to buy NewerTechnologies Dual Glint card at the same time (release date
is December).  {yeah, I know that Radius has one out already, but like
any Radius product, it bears a high price)

l8r

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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NT 4.0 & LW 5.0 bug
Date: 25 Nov 96 12:15:33 +0500
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On 25-Nov-96 12:05:37, Daniel J. McCoy ([e-mail]) in
comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, re: <Re: NT 4.0 & LW 5.0 bug> said:
>In article <[e-mail]>, Jean-Eric Hénault
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Apparently, LightWave 5.0 has z-buffer problems when using Windows NT
>>4.0. This can be as severe as having an object standing behind an other
>>being rendered in front...
>>
>>Rather embarassing. Has anyone been able to confirm this bug ? I am
>>wondering if I should upgrade my Windows NT 3.51 to 4.0...

>It's been confirmed and a rather heated topic on the LW mailing list as
>of  late.  Apparently, after NewTek has finally shipped the Amiga and
>PowerMac  versions of LW 5.0, Intel and Alpha users will see a patch that
>solves this  bug, the 1000 surface limit bug in pre LW 5.0c (Layout rev
>M), more levels of  displacement mapping plugins, and a few other issues.
> They say the PowerMac  and Amiga versions are at the test phase of the
>install CDs so it is in high  hopes we'll see a patch soon!

>Dan

>--
>Daniel J. McCoy - [e-mail] or [e-mail]
>WWW - http://www.pacificnet.net/~djmccoy

Here is the section of the latest NewTek News post which discusses the
OpenGL situation:


*_NewTek News -- November 22, 1996_*



*LightWave Intel and Alpha Notes*

Microsoft changed some defaults for OpenGL calls in Windows NT
4.0, and at least one of these affected LightWave's OpenGL
implementation.  Formerly a default call for a z-buffer would
receive a 32-bit buffer.  Since most OpenGL accelerator cards
work with 16-bit z-buffers, Microsoft changed the default to a
16-bit z-buffer.  LightWave expects and behaves as though it has
a 32-bit z-buffer, so anomalies occur in the OpenGL display.

Kudos to Microsoft for providing us the necessary information on
their changes, after testing LW to pinpoint our difficulty.
Product Manager Brad Peebler states, "OpenGL will be fixed and we
will offer a patch.  We are improving 5.0 on all platforms as we
develop the Mac version. Once all versions are finished,
hopefully in a few weeks, we will post patches for Intel and
Alpha.  We appreciate the patience and support of our LightWave
users as we complete these efforts."



======================================================================
Chuck Baker -- NewTek, Inc., Technical Support Services
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*_NewTek News -- November 22, 1996_*

This file contains news of interest to Flyer, Toaster, and
LightWave users.



*LightWave Release List Update*

Amiga LightWave 5.0 is currently scheduled for release in
December 96.  An install CD is now in test, and should go to
production within a few days.


PowerMac Lightwave 5.0 is also scheduled for December 96.  SGI
and MIPS 5.0 updates will follow these releases, also tentatively
in December 96.

Schedule is subject to change without notice.



*Price Changes to LightWave 5.0 Competitive Upgrade and
Cross-Grade Program*

Pricing on Competitive Upgrade for LightWave 5.0 (Intel and Alpha
available) has been increased to US $995.

Pricing for Intel and Alpha 5.0 LightWave on the "Cross-Grade"
program for registered owners of NewTek's products on non-Amiga
platforms (MIPS, Intel, Alpha, and SGI LightWave) has been
increased to US $995.

Pricing for Intel and Alpha 5.0 LightWave on the "Cross-Grade"
program for registered owners of NewTek's Amiga products,
specifically the Video Toaster, the Flyer, and Amiga LightWave
Standalone, remains at US $895.

Prices subject to change without notice.



*LightWave Intel and Alpha Notes*

Microsoft changed some defaults for OpenGL calls in Windows NT
4.0, and at least one of these affected LightWave's OpenGL
implementation.  Formerly a default call for a z-buffer would
receive a 32-bit buffer.  Since most OpenGL accelerator cards
work with 16-bit z-buffers, Microsoft changed the default to a
16-bit z-buffer.  LightWave expects and behaves as though it has
a 32-bit z-buffer, so anomalies occur in the OpenGL display.

Kudos to Microsoft for providing us the necessary information on
their changes, after testing LW to pinpoint our difficulty.
Product Manager Brad Peebler states, "OpenGL will be fixed and we
will offer a patch.  We are improving 5.0 on all platforms as we
develop the Mac version. Once all versions are finished,
hopefully in a few weeks, we will post patches for Intel and
Alpha.  We appreciate the patience and support of our LightWave
users as we complete these efforts."



*Flyer Board Change Warning*

The series of programmable logic chips originally used in the
Flyer has been discontinued.  New Flyers are now being made with
the current equivalent chipset.  This has required revision of
the low-level programming files in the Flyer software.  Flyer
software is now specific to which version card is being run, and
the use of the wrong set of files to run a board will -- not can,
not might, but will -- damage the Flyer board.  A warning to this
effect is included with new Flyers, and dealers and end users who
receive these new boards should not attempt to operate these
boards in an existing software installation for the old boards.
New boards will ship with the proper software, whether for new
purchase or for replacement of an unrepairable Flyer, and also
include a bright red advisory leaflet in the package.

The chipset in use in easily identifiable by the part numbers on
the chips, just below the manufacturer's logo.  The original
series parts were "ATT1Cxxx" series, and the new set is
"ATT2Cxxx" series chips.

NewTek still has plenty of repair stock of the chips previously
used in Flyer manufacture.

Flyer software shipped from this point on will contain a revised
set of files which can identify the board type from proprietary
information stored in EEPROM, and will load the appropriate
binaries.  This software is distinguishable from the original
software by checking the filenames in the directory
NewTek/Programs/Flyer_Support.  The old software contains files
with end with the ".bin" extension, and can only be used with the
original 1C chipset Flyers.  The new software contains files
which end with the ".dat" extension, these files are about twice
as large, and the new software may be used with either the 1C or
the 2C chipset Flyers.

Performance of the Flyer is identical regardless of chipset.



*Flyer Repair Policy Begins January 1, 1997*

Flyer out-of-warranty repair policy will begin on January 1,
1997.  All Flyers, regardless of purchase date, have been
repaired as in-warranty to date, as a courtesy to users who
operated the Flyer on the preliminary versions of the software
during 1995, while we were completing the long development cycle
to 4.1B.  Flyers purchased prior to January 1, 1996, are
warranted through December 31, 1996, and Flyers which were
purchased on or after January 1, 1996, are warranted for the
one-year term stated in the manual.



*Repair Labor Rate Changes*

As of January 1, 1997, the following labor rates for out-of-
warranty repair will be in effect (all quotes in US$):

Video Toaster: $50 bench fee (increases from $35).

Flyer:  $75 bench fee.

The handling fee, which applies to both Flyers and Toasters,
remains $7.50.  Parts are additional.  Boards sent for repair and
found not to be defective are charged bench fee and handling
whether in or out of warranty.

Prices subject to change without notice.



======================================================================
Chuck Baker -- NewTek, Inc., Technical Support Services
======================================================================
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NT 4.0 & LW 5.0 bug
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:57:22 GMT
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On Mon, 25 Nov 96 07:05:37 GMT, [e-mail] (Daniel J.
McCoy) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Apparently, LightWave 5.0 has z-buffer problems when using Windows NT
>>4.0. This can be as severe as having an object standing behind an other
>>being rendered in front...
>>
>>Rather embarassing. Has anyone been able to confirm this bug ? I am
>>wondering if I should upgrade my Windows NT 3.51 to 4.0...
>
>It's been confirmed and a rather heated topic on the LW mailing list as of
>late.  Apparently, after NewTek has finally shipped the Amiga and PowerMac
>versions of LW 5.0, Intel and Alpha users will see a patch that solves this
>bug, the 1000 surface limit bug in pre LW 5.0c (Layout rev M), more levels of
>displacement mapping plugins, and a few other issues.  They say the PowerMac
>and Amiga versions are at the test phase of the install CDs so it is in high
>hopes we'll see a patch soon!
>
>Dan
>
>--
>Daniel J. McCoy - [e-mail] or [e-mail]
>WWW - http://www.pacificnet.net/~djmccoy
Hell I posted that to Newtek during NT beta days right after 50hhhh
came out. That and some other anomalies frankly SUCK, and I am
terribly disappointed at the INCREDIBLY long time its taken to patch
these MAJOR MALFUNCTIONS.

Look at it this way,
NT3.51 is a fat overgrown PIG of an OS with a lame interface (and my
CD's hosed) The patches caused bugs for Chrissake.
Not everything works in Win95 or its slower and sometimes things won't
move, rotate or adjust (no gimbal lock or parenting ) just sticky gfx
(its a Millenium in a PPro Box)
NT4 "the future" causes path bugs while tweaking Keyframes, can't
import and export with out forgetting a few things AND openGL on my
Millenium will gurantee a BIBLICAL Crash of Bill Gates' finest
everytime, instantly.

Not to mention Quickbooks and friggin faxing only happen in 95.





Maybe its time for a Mac......




John Donlevie
Road-Ease, Inc.
Drexel Hill, PA
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (evilbob)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: New Online Magazine For LightWave/Toaster/Flyer Users!!
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Visual Inspirations, a leading third party application developer for
NewTek software is pleased to welcome you to the beginning of A New
Dawn in DeskTop Video!

With the demise of Video Toaster User magazine, we LightWave and Flyer
users appear to have been cast adrift to make do on our own again.
Well, we didn't let the downfall of Commodore stop us, and this is no
different.

Therefore, some of the best-known names in third-party software
development for LightWave and The Flyer have decided to band together,
like our cave-man forebears, to brave the elements and fend off the
mighty mastodon by publishing a Free online magazine devoted to YOU,
the LightWave and Flyer user. We hope to serve the Toaster Community
with timely articles, editorials, tutorials, contests, and product
reviews which will inform, instruct, and entertain with a view towards
making your Toaster time more productive and rewarding.

Our First Issue is in the works, and we hope to unveil it Very Soon.

In the meantime, we'd sincerely appreciate it if you would activate
your FREE subscription by visiting us at:

http://www.vionline.com/newtek/


We expect to publish the first issue before Christmas, and we'd love
to have all of you around to help us launch this new venture!

Reply to:

[e-mail]
http://www.vionline.com
Visual Inspirations
809 W. Hollywood
Tampa, FL 33604




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From: [e-mail] (Larry Shultz)
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Subject: re: lightwave & 3d video game development
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>
>
> > > >
> > > > I've been trying to get an idea of which 3d packages game developers are
> > > > using for playstation, sega, etc.
>
> It depends on what your using the graphics for. If its for nice background effects or still shots
> of rendered pages, or intros to the game...LightWave or Alias would be used...because of the
> high quality of the models.
> If you are making it for a realtime game...the big companies are leaning towards 3DS max for that,
> due to the ability to build low count polygon meshes, instead of downsizing your big meshes.

I have to disagree on this last statement. Lightwave allows modeling of characters using spline patches. The nice
thing is that the poly count of each patch can be controlled on the fly. This allows the building of nice organic
characters which meet poly counts as you go. Ive used other spline based modelers and they do not allow the control
that Lightwave affords.
Larry Shultz




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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Modeler won't run...
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+-- [e-mail] (Steven Johansen) (Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:46:32
GMT):
| On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:17:24 GMT, [e-mail] (David
| Hoelzer) wrote:
| >one of the machines (P133/64megs), modeller refuses to run..
| >Actually, it doesn't refuse..  It pops up on the screen and then exits
| >immediately..  It used to work just fine..  And yes, I have tried
|
|     I understand that modeller has had problems if the language
| setting for the keyboard was other than      English(United States)

The language problem would display an error about not finding the
message file.  Have you tried swapping dongles to see if you have a bad
one?  If not then I'm not sure what else to suggest.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: lighting problems in LightWave 5.0
Date: 26 Nov 1996 21:25:22 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Dave Paige) writes:

>Assuming you've got the option for number of lights for OpenGL to use
>set to 8.
>
>Dave Paige

  I suppose that is kind of important too.  :)

Dave

David Carlson
CONTINUUM
3D graphics and animation

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Posting Images?????
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I've been reading this newsgroup for a while and recently noticed some
images popping up.....

I haven't seen that in the past. I too would like to post some stuff
but do not want to get flamed.  Whats the general concensus (sp?)
about this?

If its ok let me know...If not where is a good place to post images to
get constructive feedback?

Any info would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Robert Gougher)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: I need a critic - castle~1.jpg (0/2)
Date: 26 Nov 1996 18:56:27 GMT
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Not too bad. You may want to apply smoothing to the moon though.
Also, some sort of localized log (around the moon) may be a nice touch.

Rob

---
Robert A. Gougher
Software Engineer, Eastman Kodak Company
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Kelly O'Hara)
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Subject: Re: Trans. Objects casting shadows
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Morten Steen previously stated:
>How can I get a transparent object to cast a shadow using a point light
>instead of a shadow mapped spot light?

try reducing your transparency.

rhithyn

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From: Glenn Saunders <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: amiga vs. ppro200
Date: 26 Nov 1996 14:37:02 -0700
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The mortal Walter (Jay) Turberville wrote:
: For what its worth, I ran LW 4.0 successfully on a 4mb 486-33 notebook.  Slow,
: but it ran.  Pretty sure you couldn't do that on an Amiga (perhaps could with
: 3rd party software.  Windows has virtual memory built in.  I'm not flaming
: the Amiga, just getting the record straight.  The Amiga did multitask MUCH
: better than Win 3.1.

An Amiga without 3rd party OS enhancement software is as good as a
doorstop, so why constrain it to have to use just what's on the WB disks?

I ran LW 3.5 on an Amiga 1200 030/50/50 with 4mb RAM using VMM and it
rendered fine, albeit thrashing the IDE hard drive at times.  I'm sure 4.0
would run too.  Oh, and I could multitask fairly well while leaving it as
a background task also, which was important when renders would take up to
a week sometimes...




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From: [e-mail] (Mysterium)
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Subject: Do you want to make GFX or Design games for Playstation, PC, Sega ETC???
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:59:51 GMT
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Nebula is looking for people who want to help create graphics for
Playstation, Sega, PC, Nintendo games etc etc

AND people who want to help design games.

If you are interested write to [e-mail]

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From: Howard Webb <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: HE is coming...
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:31:14 +0000
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Grant Boucher wrote:
>
> http://www.worley.com/
>
> 'nuff said...
shouldn't this be posted to alt.jesus.second.coming or something?
what is all this steve worley business about?

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[e-mail] wrote:
> Phone Newtek for a returns authorisation number - then ship the dongle to
> them.
> You can arrange for a cross-ship dongle with 1500 bucks on your credit
> card used as security. Next day cross shipping is an additional 25 bucks.
> You pay shipping to Newtek.

Since I just went through this this week, if the dongle is over a year
old, it costs $50 to replace. UPS ground is included - extra charge for
2nd day or next day.

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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Modeler won't run...
Date: 26 Nov 1996 21:25:23 GMT
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In article <57dqvj$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(David Hoelzer) writes:

>Let me start by saying that I don't want to hear any dongle cracks..
>I've got five licensed versions of lightwave here and it doesn't
>matter which dongle I try to use..  Lightwave runs just fine..  But on
>one of the machines (P133/64megs), modeller refuses to run..
>Actually, it doesn't refuse..  It pops up on the screen and then exits
>immediately..  It used to work just fine..  And yes, I have tried
>reinstalling..  Any other ideas on what could be so peculiar about
>this one machine?
>
>

  I knew someone that had the same exact problem.  You'll most likely need
to send the dongle back to Newtek to get it fixed.

David Carlson
CONTINUUM
3D graphics and animation

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From: [e-mail] (Bill Wiatroski)
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In article <01bbdaa2$efca72c0$0f69face@cockabooty>, "Grant Boucher" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Let's start a new thread war...I can't wait for Renderman to croak.  IMHO
>it's an ancient, scripted, limited capability, antique, raycasting,
>over-rated, shadow-mapping, piece-of-crap.  Time to join the 90's!  :}

Does this mean i should stop work on my RIB output plug-in? :) I REALLY
wanted to be able to run BMRT under LINUX on my 386 render farm...



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From: [e-mail] (Glyn Williams)
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Subject: Re: NT 4.0 & LW 5.0 bug
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In article <57dsuf$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] () wrote:

> AND openGL on my
> Millenium will gurantee a BIBLICAL Crash of Bill Gates' finest
> everytime, instantly.

The so-called 3D hardware acceleration features of the Millenium seem to
cause Lightwave layout to crash frequently. - Especially after previews.
The Powerdesk panel also seems to be a source of problems.

It is worth noting that under Lightwave - and using the set-up that Matrox
suggests - no visible hardware acceleration is apparent.

Glyn Williams - Particle Systems Ltd.

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You tell them Larry.